If the Atheists and the Christians Debate, Islam Wins!

Epigraph:

And thou (Muhammad) shalt assuredly find those who say, ‘We are Christians,’ to be the nearest of them in love to the believers. That is because amongst them are savants and monks and because they are not proud. (Al Quran 5:83)

Christianity to Islam

Written and collected by Zia H Shah MD, Chief Editor of the Muslim Times

Prologue

First something about the big picture, Christian apologists want to make a case for Christianity based on laws of nature and science, by showing that there ought to be a Transcendent Creator of our universe.  They make this case, in one breath, and in the very next, deny all of science, by insisting on Eucharist, man-God of Jesus, who is not Transcendent, resurrection and miracles that violate laws of nature.

Atheists are right in exposing the irrationality of the Christian dogma. However, the Christians are right in as far as their claim that there needs to be a Creator of this universe, Who employed natural means to do His work. However, both parties in their self-conceit are not listening to how Islam resolves their conflict; Islam as understood by the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community.

In a trilateral discussion between atheists, Christians and Muslims, I believe we can appreciate reality better and come up with better theology, especially if the discussion not only involves the Creator and purpose of the universe, but, also His complete Transcendence, Original Sin and evolution of life on our planet, Trinity, Mother Mary, and Eucharist.

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Richard Dawkins vs Cardinal George Pell

Richard Dawkins, Cardinal George Pell and the moderator

Prof. Richard Dawkins has one of his better moments, in the beginning, in this debate, when he says that it is senseless to believe that God had to come to earth on a suicidal mission and again around 34 minutes mark into the debate, when he asks the question, if Adam and Eve did not exist, where did Original Sin come from? Both these questions, the Muslim theologians do not have to face.

So, all else being equal, they can present a better case to the atheists or agnostics for a Creator God.

So here is the debate between Richard Dawkins and Cardinal George Pell, without further adoo:

Around 44 minute mark, until 47 minute mark, the Cardinal has rough time defending Eucharist,until he is rescued by the moderator.

Eucharist is one of the gigantic conflicts with science in Christianity and it is an area of criticism that cannot be leveled against Islam. The Cardinal seems to have good command over the situation, in many spheres of knowledge and wit, but, when it comes to Vicarious atonement, Eucharist and Original Sin, he is completely mute and dumbfounded.

Now a few words about credentials of the debaters.

George Pell AC (born 8 June 1941) is an Australian cardinal of the Roman Catholic Church. He is the eighth and current Archbishop of Sydney, serving since 2001.[1] He previously served as auxiliary bishop (1987–96) and archbishop (1996–2001) of the Archdiocese of Melbourne.[2] He was created a cardinal in 2003.[3] 

Clinton Richard Dawkins, FRS, FRSL (born 26 March 1941) is an English ethologist, evolutionary biologist[1] and author. He is an emeritus fellow of New College, Oxford,[2] and was the University of Oxford‘s Professor for Public Understanding of Science from 1995 until 2008.[3]  Dawkins is an atheist, a vice president of the British Humanist Association, and a supporter of the Brights movement.[5] He is well known for his criticism of creationism and intelligent design. In his 1986 book The Blind Watchmaker, he argues against the watchmaker analogy, an argument for the existence of a supernatural creator based upon the complexity of living organisms. Instead, he describes evolutionary processes as analogous to a blind watchmaker. He has since written several popular science books, and makes regular television and radio appearances, predominantly discussing these topics. In his 2006 book The God Delusion, Dawkins contends that a supernatural creator almost certainly does not exist and that religious faith is a delusion—”a fixed false belief”.[6] As of January 2010, the English-language version had sold more than two million copies and had been translated into 31 languages.[7]

From Dawkins and Pell, let us move to Mark Twain and Thomas Paine, the latter was one of the Founding Fathers of USA.

Mark Twain, a famous, almost a legendary American writer, once said, “It took a brave man before the Civil War to confess he had read the Age of Reason … I read it first when I was a cub pilot, read it with fear and hesitation, but marveling at its fearlessness and wonderful power.”

So, now that we have age of information, let us enlighten ourselves about Vicarious Atonement, with an excerpt from Thomas Paine’s book, Age of Reason:

From the time I was capable of conceiving an idea, and acting upon it by reflection, I either doubted the truth of the Christian system, or thought it to be a strange affair; I scarcely knew which it was: but I well remember, when about seven or eight years of age, hearing a sermon read by a relation of mine, who was a great devotee of the church, upon the subject of what is called Redemption by the death of the Son of God. After the sermon was ended, I went into the garden, and as I was going down the garden steps (for I perfectly recollect the spot) I revolted at the recollection of what I had heard, and thought to myself that it was making God Almighty act like a passionate man, that killed his son, when he could not revenge himself any other way; and as I was sure a man would be hanged that did such a thing, I could not see for what purpose they preached such sermons. This was not one of those kind of thoughts that had anything in it of childish levity; it was to me a serious reflection, arising from the idea I had that God was too good to do such an action, and also too almighty to be under any necessity of doing it. I believe in the same manner to this moment; and I moreover believe, that any system of religion that has anything in it that shocks the mind of a child, cannot be a true system.

Many Christians take refuge in the Omnipotence of God to believe in irrational dogma. Claiming that God can do whatever He wills! What they fail to recognize is that even though, God the Father, is Omnipotent and Omniscient, He is not irrational or illogical.

In the same vein, He cannot reveal things that are against His works, nature or science.  God is consistent and not self-contradictory, so, science does not contradict genuine revelation or a true religion.

In summary, it is very important to look at the big picture, atheists are right in exposing the irrationality of the Christian dogma. However, the Christians are right in as far as their claim that there needs to be a Creator of this universe, Who employed natural means to do His work. Additionally, human race cannot find consolation without the Providence of All-Powerful and Loving (Al Raheem), Transcendent God.

Unfortunately, both parties, the Christians and the agnostics / the atheists, in their self-conceit are not listening to how Islam resolves their conflict; Islam as understood by the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community.

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  1. With due respect, I noticed both debating person world apart but also had no intelligent answer.Holy Qur’an has answers all those questions and also future Questions about space travel, big bang, evolution, Adam and Eve etc etc.. Fortunately Qur’an is not for Muslim but for only those who are righteous and has faith in God and seek guidance from him. That means anyone in the world can claim that this book is guidance for him. The Qur’an has given all these answers. Bible was written in 17th centenary and it still evolving and challenged all over the world. Qur’an has never been challenged as God said that no one can produce a chapter like this. Qur’an and science goes hand in hand. Prophets are proof God. Qur’an is proof God. Prayers are heard that is proof of God, God does talk to people and tell them about future. If you want learn more about God contact nearest Ahmadiyya Muslim Community. Also go to Alislam.org and click on Multimedia library and select English videos. You can search for all important topics that your mind fancy covering from Evolution to life after death.

  2. If the Atheists and the Christians Debate, Islam Wins!

    Bismillahirrahmanirrahim.
    From my belief,If the Atheists, the Christians, Muslim and other religion have debate,there will be no winner.Only Allah has the right to judge His people in Hereafter.

    The question should be raised is who will get two reward, or two paradise from Allah almighty, instead of above question.

    The true winner from all religions and non religions is those who will reward from Allah almighty TWO PARADISES. One paradise on earth and second paradise in Hereafter.As Allah says in His Book, Al Quran.

    Those who have believed and have been fearful of Allah. For them there is the good news in the worldly life (paradise) and in the Hereafter (paradise ):there is no change in the words of Allah.That is the great achievement. QS 10;63-64.

    Almighty God also says in His Book, Al Quran; only few people will get two rewards from Allah. most His people will go to Hell.

    And surely, We gave you authority on the earth and appointed for you therein provisions (for your life). Little thanks do you give.
    QS 7;(10).

    Say it is He Who has created you, and endowed you with hearing (ears), seeing (eyes), and hearts. Little thanks you give. QS 67;(23)

    WHAT DOES THE LIFE OF PARADISE LOOK LIKE?
    Allah almighty explain in His Books Al Quran and Bible is those who live in wealth, or luxury, and no fear,People live in peace, and happiness.

    WHO WILL GET PARADISE ON THE EARTH? AND WHO WILL GET PARADISE IN HEREAFTER?

    Those who believe in CREATOR and non believers can get reward of paradise from Almighty God.
    But non believers can not get paradise in Hereafter.

    Those who believe in Creator can get two paradises.

    HOW TO GET TWO PARADISES?

    Almighty God says in His Books Bible and Al Quran;

    Happy are those who obey God’ laws,who live by His commands. Your work will provide for your needs; you will be happy and prosperous. Your wife will be like vine in your home,and your sons will be like young olive trees around your table.A man who obeys God will surely be bless like this. Psalms 128:1

    “Be sure that the book of law is always read in your worship.Study it day and night,and make sure that you obey everything written in it. Then you will be prosperous and successful. Joshuo;1:8-9.

    He who fear Allah He will hold for him a way out. (Successful) And give him sustenance from unexpected directions-but thought nothing. (Prosperous)
    QS.65 :2-3.
    And it is also revealed to me) that if they (the people of Makkah) had stood firm on the (right) way, We would have supplied water to them in abundance, QS 72;(16).

    WHY ALMIGHTY GOD SAYS THAT ONLY FEW HIS PEOPLE WILL GET TWO PARADISES?

    Say it is He Who has created you, and endowed you with hearing (ears), seeing (eyes), and hearts. Little thanks you give. QS 67;(23).

    BECAUSE most His people have deceived by Evil.
    Most all religious people believe in CREATOR but also believe in IDOL or his leader, imam, pastor, rabbi etc.

    As Allah says in Al Quran, the last Book of Allah;

    They have taken their priests and their scholars for their Lords ( idols) besides God’s laws. QS.9:31.

    Those who follow scholars (idols) blindly, he will fall into sinful Syrik and go astray.

    Most Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Budhas etc believe in his idol, his leader instead of Allah alone.

    As we are Muslim have to admit that most of us ( Muslim) believe in Allah or Al quran, Creator, also believe in our ancient imam ( religious leaders)through the book of Hadith. The book of Hadith is not the word of Allah, but the word of men, or imam, Mslim scholars etc.as well as Jews, Christians, Hindus and budhas.

    I urge strongly all religious people( Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindus and budhas ) LET us avoid believing in Idol–but believe in Creator ONLY. Let us to struggle harder and harder to achieve a great reward from Allah by obeying Allah’s laws rightly and completely.

    May Almighty God will reward us two paradises.

    Was salam
    With all my love

  3. l don’t understand all these uses of quotations or comments. l am interested in Islam, so l want to know the right questions to ask. Maybe you can help?

  4. Always Islam wins! that is because there are no weak points in Islam,.Allah (Creator of the heavens and the earth has protected the religion for us . – praise be to Allah. Islam is the perfect religion of Allah, and Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):
    “And the Word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice”
    [al-An’aam 6:115]
    “This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My Favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion”
    [al-Maa’idah 5:3]
    “if only they had referred it to the Messenger or to those charged with authority among them, the proper investigators would have understood it from them (directly). Had it not been for the Grace and Mercy of Allaah upon you, you would have followed Shaytaan (Satan), save a few of you”
    [al-Nisa’ 4:83 – interpretation of the meaning]

  5. Atheism, in modern terminology, means denying the Creator altogether, denying that He exists and not acknowledging Him, may He be glorified and exalted. The universe and everything in it, according to their claims, came about purely by chance. This is a strange view which is contrary to sound human nature, reason and logic, and is contrary to simple logic and indisputable facts. Allah (Creator of the heavens and the earth) says in His last and final book
    Quran
    Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “Have you (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) seen him who has taken as his ilaah (god) his own vain desire? Would you then be a Wakeel (a disposer of his affairs or a watcher) over him?

    44. Or do you think that most of them hear or understand? They are only like cattle nay, they are even farther astray from the Path (i.e. even worse than cattle)”

    [al-Furqaan 25:43-44]

    “And surely, We have created many of the jinn and mankind for Hell. They have hearts wherewith they understand not, and they have eyes wherewith they see not, and they have ears wherewith they hear not (the truth). They are like cattle, nay even more astray; those! They are the heedless ones”

    [al-A’raaf 7:179].

  6. Quran
    Surah Al-Baqarah (The Cow)
    In the Name of Allah, The Most Gracious, Most Merciful
    115. And to Allah belong the east and the west, so wherever you turn yourselves or your faces there is the Face of Allah (and He is High above, over His Throne). Surely! Allah is All-Sufficient for His creatures’ needs, All-Knowing.
    116. And they (Jews, Christians and pagans) say: Allah has begotten a son (children or offspring). Glory be to Him (Exalted be He above all that they associate with Him). Nay, to Him belongs all that is in the heavens and on earth, and all surrender with obedience (in worship) to Him.
    117. The Originator of the heavens and the earth. When He decrees a matter, He only says to it : “Be!” – and it is.
    Quran
    18. Surah Al-Kahf (The Cave)
    In the Name of Allah, The Most Gracious, Most Merciful
    1. All the praises and thanks be to Allah, Who has sent down to His slave (Muhammad ) the Book (the Qur’an), and has not placed therein any crookedness.
    2. (He has made it) Straight to give warning (to the disbelievers) of a severe punishment from Him, and to give glad tidings to the believers (in the Oneness of Allah Islamic Monotheism), who work righteous deeds, that they shall have a fair reward (i.e. Paradise).
    3. They shall abide therein forever.
    4. And to warn those (Jews, Christians, and pagans) who say, “Allah has begotten a son (or offspring or children).”
    5. No knowledge have they of such a thing, nor had their fathers. Mighty is the word that comes out of their mouths [i.e. He begot (took) sons and daughters]. They utter nothing but a lie.

  7. Quran
    18. Surah Al-Kahf (The Cave)

    In the Name of Allah, The Most Gracious, Most Merciful

    1. All the praises and thanks be to Allah, Who has sent down to His slave (Muhammad ) the Book (the Qur’an), and has not placed therein any crookedness.

    2. (He has made it) Straight to give warning (to the disbelievers) of a severe punishment from Him, and to give glad tidings to the believers (in the Oneness of Allah Islamic Monotheism), who work righteous deeds, that they shall have a fair reward (i.e. Paradise).

    3. They shall abide therein forever.

    4. And to warn those (Jews, Christians, and pagans) who say, “Allah has begotten a son (or offspring or children).”

    5. No knowledge have they of such a thing, nor had their fathers. Mighty is the word that comes out of their mouths [i.e. He begot (took) sons and daughters]. They utter nothing but a lie.

    6. Perhaps, you, would kill yourself (O Muhammad ) in grief, over their footsteps (for their turning away from you), because they believe not in this narration (the Qur’an).

    7. Verily! We have made that which is on earth as an adornment for it, in order that We may test them (mankind) as to which of them are best in deeds. [i.e.those who do good deeds in the most perfect manner, that means to do them (deeds) totally for Allah’s sake and in accordance to the legal ways of the Prophet ].

    8. And verily! We shall make all that is on it (the earth) a bare dry soil (without any vegetation or trees, etc.).

    9. Do you think that the people of the Cave and the Inscription (the news or the names of the people of the Cave) were a wonder among Our Signs?

    10. (Remember) when the young men fled for refuge (from their disbelieving folk) to the Cave, they said: “Our Lord! Bestow on us mercy from Yourself, and facilitate for us our affair in the right way!”

    11. Therefore We covered up their (sense of) hearing (causing them, to go in deep sleep) in the Cave for a number of years.

    12. Then We raised them up (from their sleep), that We might test which of the two parties was best at calculating the time period that they had tarried.

    13. We narrate unto you (O Muhammad ) their story with truth: Truly! They were young men who believed in their Lord (Allah), and We increased them in guidance.

    14. And We made their hearts firm and strong (with the light of Faith in Allah and bestowed upon them patience to bear the separation of their kith and kin and dwellings, etc.) when they stood up and said: “Our Lord is the Lord of the heavens and the earth, never shall we call upon any ilah (god) other than Him; if we did, we should indeed have uttered an enormity in disbelief.

    15. “These our people have taken for worship aliha (gods) other than Him (Allah). Why do they not bring for them a clear authority? And who does more wrong than he who invents a lie against Allah.

    16. (The young men said to one another): “And when you withdraw from them, and that which they worship, except Allah, then seek refuge in the Cave, your Lord will open a way for you from His Mercy and will make easy for you your affair (i.e. will give you what you will need of provision, dwelling, etc.).”

    17. And you might have seen the sun, when it rose, declining to the right from their Cave, and when it set, turning away from them to the left, while they lay in the midst of the Cave. That is (one) of the Ayat (proofs, evidences, signs) of Allah. He whom Allah guides, is rightly guided; but he whom He sends astray, for him you will find no Wali (guiding friend) to lead him (to the right Path).

    18. And you would have thought them awake, while they were asleep. And We turned them on their right and on their left sides, and their dog stretching forth his two forelegs at the entrance [of the Cave or in the space near to the entrance of the Cave (as a guard at the gate)]. Had you looked at them, you would certainly have turned back from them in flight, and would certainly have been filled with awe of them.

    19. Likewise, We awakened them (from their long deep sleep) that they might question one another. A speaker from among them said: “How long have you stayed (here)?” They said: “We have stayed (perhaps) a day or part of a day.” They said: “Your Lord (Alone) knows best how long you have stayed (here). So send one of you with this silver coin of yours to the town, and let him find out which is the good lawful food, and bring some of that to you. And let him be careful and let no man know of you.

    20. “For if they come to know of you, they will stone you (to death or abuse and harm you) or turn you back to their religion, and in that case you will never be successful.”

    21. And thus We made their case known to the people, that they might know that the Promise of Allah is true, and that there can be no doubt about the Hour. (Remember) when they (the people of the city) disputed among themselves about their case, they said: “Construct a building over them, their Lord knows best about them,” (then) those who won their point said (most probably the disbelievers): “We verily shall build a place of worship over them.”

    22. (Some) say they were three, the dog being the fourth among them; (others) say they were five, the dog being the sixth, guessing at the unseen; (yet others) say they were seven, the dog being the eighth. Say (O Muhammad ): “My Lord knows best their number; none knows them but a few.” So debate not (about their number, etc.) except with the clear proof (which We have revealed to you). And consult not any of them (people of the Scripture, Jews and Christians) about (the affair of) the people of the Cave.

    23. And never say of anything, “I shall do such and such thing tomorrow.”

    24. Except (with the saying), “If Allah will!” And remember your Lord when you forget and say: “It may be that my Lord guides me unto a nearer way of truth than this.”

    25. And they stayed in their Cave three hundred (solar) years, and add nine (for lunar years).

    26. Say: “Allah knows best how long they stayed. With Him is (the knowledge of) the unseen of the heavens and the earth. How clearly He sees, and hears (everything)! They have no Wali (Helper, Disposer of affairs, Protector, etc.) other than Him, and He makes none to share in His Decision and His Rule.”

    27. And recite what has been revealed to you (O Muhammad ) of the Book (the Qur’an) of your Lord (i.e. recite it, understand and follow its teachings and act on its orders and preach it to men). None can change His Words, and none will you find as a refuge other than Him.

    28. And keep yourself (O Muhammad ) patiently with those who call on their Lord (i.e. your companions who remember their Lord with glorification, praising in prayers, etc., and other righteous deeds, etc.) morning and afternoon, seeking His Face, and let not your eyes overlook them, desiring the pomp and glitter of the life of the world; and obey not him whose heart We have made heedless of Our Remembrance, one who follows his own lusts and whose affair (deeds) has been lost.

    29. And say: “The truth is from your Lord.” Then whosoever wills, let him believe, and whosoever wills, let him disbelieve. Verily, We have prepared for the Zalimun (polytheists and wrong-doers, etc.), a Fire whose walls will be surrounding them (disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah). And if they ask for help (relief, water, etc.) they will be granted water like boiling oil, that will scald their faces. Terrible the drink, and an evil Murtafaqa (dwelling, resting place, etc.)!

    30. Verily! As for those who believe and do righteous deeds, certainly! We shall not suffer to be lost the reward of anyone who does his (righteous) deeds in the most perfect manner.

    31. These! For them will be ‘Adn (Eden) Paradise (everlasting Gardens); wherein rivers flow underneath them, therein they will be adorned with bracelets of gold, and they will wear green garments of fine and thick silk. They will recline therein on raised thrones. How good is the reward, and what an excellent Murtafaqa (dwelling, resting place, etc.)!

    32. And put forward to them the example of two men; unto one of them We had given two gardens of grapes, and We had surrounded both with date-palms; and had put between them green crops (cultivated fields etc.).

    33. Each of those two gardens brought forth its produce, and failed not in the least therein, and We caused a river to gush forth in the midst of them.

    34. And he had property (or fruit) and he said to his companion, in the course of mutual talk: I am more than you in wealth and stronger in respect of men.” [See Tafsir Qurtubi, Vol. 10, Page 403].

    35. And he went into his garden while in a state (of pride and disbelief) unjust to himself. He said: “I think not that this will ever perish.

    36. “And I think not the Hour will ever come, and if indeed I am brought back to my Lord, (on the Day of Resurrection), I surely shall find better than this when I return to Him.”

    37. His companion said to him, during the talk with him: “Do you disbelieve in Him Who created you out of dust (i.e. your father Adam), then out of Nutfah (mixed semen drops of male and female discharge), then fashioned you into a man?

    38. “But as for my part (I believe) that He is Allah, my Lord and none shall I associate as partner with my Lord.

    39. It was better for you to say, when you entered your garden: ‘That which Allah wills (will come to pass)! There is no power but with Allah ‘. If you see me less than you in wealth, and children.

    40. “It may be that my Lord will give me something better than your garden, and will send on it Husban (torment, bolt, etc.) from the sky, then it will be a slippery earth.

    41. “Or the water thereof (of the gardens) becomes deep-sunken (underground) so that you will never be able to seek it.”

    42. So his fruits were encircled (with ruin). And he remained clapping his hands with sorrow over what he had spent upon it, while it was all destroyed on its trellises, he could only say: “Would I had ascribed no partners to my Lord!” [Tafsir Ibn Kathir]

    43. And he had no group of men to help him against Allah, nor could he defend or save himself.

    44. There (on the Day of Resurrection), Al-Walayah (the protection, power, authority and kingdom) will be for Allah (Alone), the True God. He (Allah) is the Best for reward and the Best for the final end. (La ilaha ill-Allah none has the right to be worshipped but Allah).

    45. And put forward to them the example of the life of this world, it is like the water (rain) which We send down from the sky, and the vegetation of the earth mingles with it, and becomes fresh and green. But (later) it becomes dry and broken pieces, which the winds scatter. And Allah is Able to do everything.

    46. Wealth and children are the adornment of the life of this world. But the good righteous deeds (five compulsory prayers, deeds of Allah’s obedience, good and nice talk, remembrance of Allah with glorification, praises and thanks, etc.), that last, are better with your Lord for rewards and better in respect of hope.

    47. And (remember) the Day We shall cause the mountains to pass away (like clouds of dust), and you will see the earth as a levelled plain, and we shall gather them all together so as to leave not one of them behind.

    48. And they will be set before your Lord in (lines as) rows, (and Allah will say): “Now indeed, you have come to Us as We created you the first time. Nay, but you thought that We had appointed no meeting for you (with Us).”

    49. And the Book (one’s Record) will be placed (in the right hand for a believer in the Oneness of Allah, and in the left hand for a disbeliever in the Oneness of Allah), and you will see the Mujrimun (criminals, polytheists, sinners, etc.), fearful of that which is (recorded) therein. They will say: “Woe to us! What sort of Book is this that leaves neither a small thing nor a big thing, but has recorded it with numbers!” And they will find all that they did, placed before them, and your Lord treats no one with injustice.

    50. And (remember) when We said to the angels; “Prostrate to Adam.” So they prostrated except Iblis (Satan). He was one of the jinns; he disobeyed the Command of his Lord. Will you then take him (Iblis) and his offspring as protectors and helpers rather than Me while they are enemies to you? What an evil is the exchange for the Zalimun (polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc).

    51. I (Allah) made them (Iblis and his offspring) not to witness (nor took their help in) the creation of the heavens and the earth and not (even) their own creation, nor was I (Allah) to take the misleaders as helpers.

    52. And (remember) the Day He will say:”Call those (so-called) partners of Mine whom you pretended.” Then they will cry unto them, but they will not answer them, and We shall put Maubiqa (a barrier, or enmity, or destruction, or a valley in Hell) between them.

    53. And the Mujrimun (criminals, polytheists, sinners), shall see the Fire and apprehend that they have to fall therein. And they will find no way of escape from there.

    54. And indeed We have put forth every kind of example in this Qur’an, for mankind. But, man is ever more quarrelsome than anything.

    55. And nothing prevents men from believing, now when the guidance (the Qur’an) has come to them, and from asking Forgiveness of their Lord, except that the ways of the ancients be repeated with them (i.e. their destruction decreed by Allah), or the torment be brought to them face to face?

    56. And We send not the Messengers except as giver of glad tidings and warners. But those who disbelieve, dispute with false argument, in order to refute the truth thereby. And they treat My Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.), and that with which they are warned, as jest and mockery!

    57. And who does more wrong than he who is reminded of the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) of his Lord, but turns away from them forgetting what (deeds) his hands have sent forth. Truly, We have set veils over their hearts lest they should understand this (the Qur’an), and in their ears, deafness. And if you (O Muhammad ) call them to guidance, even then they will never be guided.

    58. And your Lord is Most Forgiving, Owner of Mercy. Were He to call them to account for what they have earned, then surely, He would have hastened their punishment. But they have their appointed time, beyond which they will find no escape.

    59. And these towns (population, ‘Ad, Thamud, etc.) We destroyed when they did wrong. And We appointed a fixed time for their destruction.

    60. And (remember) when Musa (Moses) said to his boy-servant: “I will not give up (travelling) until I reach the junction of the two seas or (until) I spend years and years in travelling.”

    61. But when they reached the junction of the two seas, they forgot their fish, and it took its way through the sea as in a tunnel.

    62. So when they had passed further on (beyond that fixed place), Musa (Moses) said to his boy-servant: “Bring us our morning meal; truly, we have suffered much fatigue in this, our journey.”

    63. He said:”Do you remember when we betook ourselves to the rock? I indeed forgot the fish, none but Shaitan (Satan) made me forget to remember it. It took its course into the sea in a strange (way)!”

    64. [Musa (Moses)] said: “That is what we have been seeking.” So they went back retracing their footsteps.

    65. Then they found one of Our slaves, unto whom We had bestowed mercy from Us, and whom We had taught knowledge from Us.

    66. Musa (Moses) said to him (Khidr) “May I follow you so that you teach me something of that knowledge (guidance and true path) which you have been taught (by Allah)?”

    67. He (Khidr) said: “Verily! You will not be able to have patience with me!

    68. “And how can you have patience about a thing which you know not?”

    69. Musa (Moses) said: “If Allah will, you will find me patient, and I will not disobey you in aught.”

    70. He (Khidr) said: “Then, if you follow me, ask me not about anything till I myself mention it to you.”

    71. So they both proceeded, till, when they embarked the ship, he (Khidr) scuttled it. Musa (Moses) said: “Have you scuttled it in order to drown its people? Verily, you have committed a thing “Imra” (a Munkar – evil, bad, dreadful thing).”

    72. He (Khidr) said: “Did I not tell you, that you would not be able to have patience with me?”

    73. [Musa (Moses)] said: “Call me not to account for what I forgot, and be not hard upon me for my affair (with you).”

    74. Then they both proceeded, till they met a boy, he (Khidr) killed him. Musa (Moses) said: “Have you killed an innocent person who had killed none? Verily, you have committed a thing “Nukra” (a great Munkar – prohibited, evil, dreadful thing)!”

    75. (Khidr) said: “Did I not tell you that you can have no patience with me?”

    76. [Musa (Moses)] said: “If I ask you anything after this, keep me not in your company, you have received an excuse from me.”

    77. Then they both proceeded, till, when they came to the people of a town, they asked them for food, but they refused to entertain them. Then they found therein a wall about to collapse and he (Khidr) set it up straight. [Musa (Moses)] said: If you had wished, surely, you could have taken wages for it!”

    78. (Khidr) said: “This is the parting between me and you, I will tell you the interpretation of (those) things over which you were unable to hold patience.

    79. “As for the ship, it belonged to Masakin (poor people) working in the sea. So I wished to make a defective damage in it, as there was a king after them who seized every ship by force.

    80. “And as for the boy, his parents were believers, and we feared lest he should oppress them by rebellion and disbelief.

    81. “So we intended that their Lord should change him for them for one better in righteousness and near to mercy.

    82. “And as for the wall, it belonged to two orphan boys in the town; and there was under it a treasure belonging to them; and their father was a righteous man, and your Lord intended that they should attain their age of full strength and take out their treasure as a mercy from your Lord. And I did it not of my own accord. That is the interpretation of those (things) over which you could not hold patience.”

    83. And they ask you about Dhul-Qarnain. Say: “I shall recite to you something of his story.”

    84. Verily, We established him in the earth, and We gave him the means of everything.

    85. So he followed a way.

    86. Until, when he reached the setting place of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of black muddy (or hot) water. And he found near it a people. We (Allah) said (by inspiration): “O Dhul-Qarnain! Either you punish them, or treat them with kindness.”

    87. He said: “As for him (a disbeliever in the Oneness of Allah) who does wrong, we shall punish him; and then he will be brought back unto his Lord; Who will punish him with a terrible torment (Hell).

    88. “But as for him who believes (in Allah’s Oneness) and works righteousness, he shall have the best reward, (Paradise), and we (Dhul-Qarnain) shall speak unto him mild words (as instructions).”

    89. Then he followed another way,

    90. Until, when he came to the rising place of the sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We (Allah) had provided no shelter against the sun.

    91. So (it was)! And We knew all about him (Dhul-Qarnain).

    92. Then he followed (another) way,

    93. Until, when he reached between two mountains, he found, before (near) them (those two mountains), a people who scarcely understood a word.

    94. They said: “O Dhul-Qarnain! Verily! Ya’juj and Ma’juj (Gog and Magog) are doing great mischief in the land. Shall we then pay you a tribute in order that you might erect a barrier between us and them?”

    95. He said: “That (wealth, authority and power) in which my Lord had established me is better (than your tribute). So help me with strength (of men), I will erect between you and them a barrier.

    96. “Give me pieces (blocks) of iron,” then, when he had filled up the gap between the two mountain-cliffs, he said: “Blow,” till when he had made it (red as) fire, he said: “Bring me molten copper to pour over it.”

    97. So they [Ya’juj and Ma’juj (Gog and Magog)] were made powerless to scale it or dig through it.

    98. Dhul-Qarnain) said: “This is a mercy from my Lord, but when the Promise of my Lord comes, He shall level it down to the ground. And the Promise of my Lord is ever true.”

    99. And on that Day [i.e. the Day Ya’juj and Ma’juj (Gog and Magog) will come out], We shall leave them to surge like waves on one another, and the Trumpet will be blown, and We shall collect them all together.

    100. And on that Day We shall present Hell to the disbelievers, plain to view,

    101. (To) Those whose eyes had been under a covering from My Reminder (this Qur’an), and who could not bear to hear (it).

    102. Do then those who disbelieve think that they can take My slaves [i.e., the angels, Allah’s Messengers, ‘Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), etc.] as Auliya’ (lords, gods, protectors, etc.) besides Me? Verily, We have prepared Hell as an entertainment for the disbelievers (in the Oneness of Allah Islamic Monotheism).

    103. Say (O Muhammad ): “Shall We tell you the greatest losers in respect of (their) deeds?

    104. “Those whose efforts have been wasted in this life while they thought that they were acquiring good by their deeds!

    105. “They are those who deny the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) of their Lord and the Meeting with Him (in the Hereafter). So their works are in vain, and on the Day of Resurrection, We shall not give them any weight.

    106. “That shall be their recompense, Hell; because they disbelieved and took My Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) and My Messengers by way of jest and mockery.

    107. “Verily! Those who believe (in the Oneness of Allah Islamic Monotheism) and do righteous deeds, shall have the Gardens of Al-Firdaus (the Paradise) for their entertainment.

    108. “Wherein they shall dwell (forever). No desire will they have to be removed therefrom.”

    109. Say (O Muhammad to mankind). “If the sea were ink for (writing) the Words of my Lord, surely, the sea would be exhausted before the Words of my Lord would be finished, even if we brought (another sea) like it for its aid.”

    110. Say (O Muhammad ): “I am only a man like you. It has been inspired to me that your Ilah (God) is One Ilah (God i.e. Allah). So whoever hopes for the Meeting with his Lord, let him work righteousness and associate none as a partner in the worship of his Lord.”

  8. The unbelievable arrogance of islam. To claim scientific predictions within the Quran where non exist, and the deride the “dogma” of christianity when muslims believe Muhammad rode on a winged horse to heaven and split the moon in too. Christianity may believe in a lot of retarded stuff, but Muslims take the cake for backwards bronze age mythology. You should be ashamed of your arrogance to claim that your religion is the one true religion and that all others are going to hell. Leave such wicked preachments and sectarianism in the middle east where they belong. You’re society and culture will always be inferior so long as you hold on to theocracy.

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