Joel Osteen’s audio: Forgiving So You can be Free
Written and collected by Zia H Shah MD, Chief Editor of the Muslim Times
Joel Osteen has no less than a thousand, half hour wonderful presentations, about positive thinking, hope, optimism and success. Most of these are available in YouTube and a few will be linked in this post.
Some of these are repetitions but almost every sermon has some new materials and metaphors.
He is a Christian Pastor but I felt that it would be such a loss if I don’t share these with our Muslim readers. He mostly talks about God of the Abrahamic faiths of Judaism and Christianity. Additionally, for the Muslim readers, whenever he speaks of the Bible we could choose to substitute it with the Quran and whenever he refers to Jesus we can suitably imply Allah or Muhammad, may peace be on him.
By such simple substitution almost all of his presentations become perfectly kosher and halal for the Muslim audience, who can greatly benefit from his oratory and scholarship.
Listening is the modern form of reading and by listening for a few hours, audience can gather years of reading of Osteen.
And I can claim that we have the best collection of articles and videos about human psychology and genuine interfaith tolerance.
Some Muslims worry about the influence of the Christian dogma and I don’t have the slightest fear of those false doctrines, as we have scores of amazing articles to present a rational form of Christianity and expose the absurdity of her dogma like Trinity, divinity of Jesus, birth of God, Original Sin and Eucharist.
Nevertheless, Islam and Christianity, both share the theology of Providence of God and compassionate and just living among the humanity and there we can share and work together and applaud each other and need not create artificial walls. Allah says in the holy Quran: “Say, `O people of the Book ! come to a word equal to us and you – that we worship none but Allah, and that we associate no partner with Him, and that some of us take not others for Lords beside Allah.’ But if they turn away, then say `Bear witness that we have submitted to God.'” (Al Quran 3:64/65)
In the last century, Dale Carnegie with his book, How to make friends and influence people, set the tone for social and business life, during this century with his televangelism, Joel Osteen is setting the tone for positive thinking and optimism.
According to a BBC survey a billion people in the world are suffering from anxiety and depression and the world badly needs a voice of hope and optimism.
In that spirit I will catalog several of his presentations below in this article and in the comment section, over time.
The distinguished psychiatrist, Dr. Carl Jung, who was a contemporary of Freud and is well known for several contributions in the field, says in the chapter, Psychotherapists or clergy of his book, Modern Man in Search of a Soul:
During the past thirty years, people from all the civilized countries of the earth have consulted me. I have treated many hundreds of patients. … Among all my patients in the second half of life — to say, over thirty‑five — there has not been one whose problem in the last resort was not that of finding a religious outlook on life. It is safe to say that every one of them fell ill because he had lost that which the living religions of every age have given to their followers, and none of them has been really healed who did not regain his religious outlook.
The famous psychiatrist has declared in no uncertain terms that the origin of all psychiatric problems which will include anxiety, depression and personality disorders lies in moving away from true religious values.
In conclusion, here are some more essential readings:
Doctor’s Orders: 20 Minutes Of Meditation Twice a Day – How about 10 minutes 5 Times a day?
Can You Chant from the Bible or the Quran to Bliss and Happiness?
Happiness Isn’t a Feeling — It’s a Skill That Can Be Learned
- Dr. Carl Jung. Modern Man in Search of a Soul. Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, Book, 1933. Page 229.
It is wonderful video from you, Zia. Thank you so much.
Hopefully Ahmadiyyah Muslim and non Ahmadiyyah can learn from other scholars ( non Islam).
Allah say many times in Al Quran that prophet Adam, Ibrahim, Moses and Jesus were Muslim or Islam. All His teaching are Islam. Bible and Al Quran are Islamic teaching. We are all brotherhood in faith.
would be nice if ‘anonymous’ would tell us his/her real name.
surely in the perfect state of USA anonymous does not have to be afraid to give us a real name?
I thought you have removed my name ( somi tempo) from this forum. Can you fix it again?
No. Just use your real name.
Another person who has made a fortune from gullible people, and America in particular seems to have many. I do not care for these type of people.
Thank you Zia — a excellent speech from a Christian scholar. God bless Zia and Preecher Joel Osteen. I love and enjoy to watch his speech. He is amazing and lovely man, we can see from his face and his words.
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) followed Jesus Teaching.
Prophet Muhammad affirmed those who follow Jesus’ teaching will filled his heart with love and mercy. So Prophet Muhammad followed Jesus Teaching.
Then, in their wake, We followed them up with (others of) Our Messengers: We sent after them ‘Isa the son of Maryam, and bestowed on him the Gospel; and We ordained in the hearts of those who followed him Love,or Compassion and Mercy. QS.57;27.
I cannot believe that why islamic clerics and scholars never teach this VERSE to Muslim? Why? Why?
That is why most Islamic clerics teach HATE AND FEAR to his followers — never teach love all people as you love your self instead of.
Look at a islamic clerics Zakir Naik who has thousand followers too but when we see his face and his words is a unpleasant face and words— right??
All love ❤️
Watch Zakir Naik.
Instead of concentrating always on the wrong teachings of those clerics that teach hate why not simply promote those who teach LOVE FOR ALL AND HATRED FOR NONE?
Zia— I am so happy there is a khalifah or imam who teach his followers the peaceful religion no hatred for all.
I appreaciate for that.
But when we see the Islamic world in DARKNESS, FEAR, CONFLICT AND POVERTY— no wonder because most Islamic clerics or scholars teach hatred and fear to Allah, fear to enemy, full of hatred and fear.
When we hear Chrustian prescher like Joel Osteen, we here from him: hope, love, God love us, God will protect us— do need to worry about finacial, about enemy, about children and about anything else— Allah will control every thing— leave to Allah and love Allah, love Jesus you will be fine in the hand of Allah.
Hopefully Ahmadiyyah urge Muslim to read Bible and practic Jesus teaching that do not against Al Quran.
Fo you agree Zia?
All love ❤️
How come the Christians are so good in creating ‘collateral damage’? All that Christian talk of love seems not to stop them from having created American slavery in the past and discrimination up to now. Remember the genocide Christian colonials created everywhere because ‘life without Christ’ was literally not worth living? You go and read the bible, we are happy with the Qur’an and the wisdom of the new Promised Messiah which we find on http://www.alislam.org
The ‘Muslim World’ lives in darkness not because they do not read the bible, but because they do not follow the advice of the Khalifa of this time, which Allah has appointed ! Obvious I should have thought, by now (meaning as we told you many times before).
Joel Osteen? No.
I don’t give a dime to Joel Osteen but I do practice many of his other optimistic ideas.
Enjoyed post. The world needs more forgiveness. How did you add the audio? Thanks. Keep up the inspiring work.
This act of forgiveness sounds perfect
healer on an individual level i.e. one to one basis. But how would you forget and forgive the immoral acts of commanding individuals in a community you belong to where you can not even raise your concern against over all hypocrisy exposed and deeply felt by you for all ethical reasons.