The Elephant in the Room

By Shahid Pervaiz 

“The Elephant” in the room is not the doctrines ascribed to Christianity, Lahori Group or Ghamedi Sahib.

“The REAL” Elephant is that “ALL” mainstream religions (of course Islam included) profess the COMING OF A REFORMER IN THE LATTER DAYS; yet, a majority of Muslims (except Shiites) since about a century past are wrangling the concept.

Few example, the “Promised Reformer to come in Latter Days” according to various religions: 

Hinduism Lord Krishna
Zoroastrians Prophet Zoroaster
Judaism Messiah after re-coming of Prophet Elijah
Christianity Messiah of latter days
Islam Re-coming of Prophet Jesus son of Mary

According to the Shiite belief, there are 12 Imams and here is the description of the 12th:

12 Al mehdi.jpg Muhammad ibn al-Hasan
محمد بن الحسن


Abu al-Qasim
أبو القاسم

al-Mahdi, Hidden Imam, al-Hujjah[38]
(The Guided One, The Proof)


Onikinci Ali[11]

868–unknown[39]


255–unknown[39]

According to Twelver Shi’ite doctrine, he is an actual historical personality and is the current Imam and the promised Mahdi, a messianic figure who will return with Christ. He will reestablish the rightful governance of Islam and replete the earth with justice and peace.[40]

 

In other words the Shiites are also awaiting the second coming of a reformer, al-Mahdi.

“The Elephant” was first “carved” and then “pushed” in to the room by Sunni Philosophers in absolute contradiction to their “traditional belief” about second coming, towards the start of 1800s.

Sunni belief consists of two schools of thought, namely (1) Deuband and (2) Barelvi.

Deuband’s founder the Maulana Qasim Nanotvi was a staunch advocate of the “coming of the promised reformer” in near future in India.  Barelvi school; as followers of Ahmed Raza Khan Sahib of Barelvi came into being in much later years – as an opponent force to the rigid practices of Deuband.  They coincide in chronology with the proclamation of being “the promised reformer of latter days” by the founder of Ahmadiyya Muslim Community – Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian.

The Sunni Muslims through the nineteenth century continued to believe and profess that a reformer of the Latter Days is about to come, as was prophesied by the Prophet of Islam, Muhammad, may peace be on him, to be a Prophet, namely Jesus son of Mary.

Other Muslim Sects such as Ahle Hadith (wahabis) and Ahle Quran maintained the same (above) belief.

Some of them like Nawab Siddique Hassan Sahib of Bhopal (the noble husband of Begum Shahjehan – the ruler of Bhopal), was a foremost Ahle Hadith to profess (based upon his research of the Hadith, chronology and other religious references) that the promised reformer of the Latter Days is just about to come in India.

This belief (which was common among Sunnies and other Muslim sects) took a full “U Turn” when Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian proclaimed to have received the divine revelation of being the reformer of the Latter Days.

From then on, the “Amended Belief,” which came to public ears that “No prophethood of any stature could come” and “New Meanings” of “Khatme Nabuwat” were coined; which was repeatedly used for political gains by Deuband Clergy, in British India as well as in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Despite the fact that the Prophet of Islam had elaborated the re-coming of Prophet Elijah to be the advent of Prophet John the Baptist and that he had seen Jesus son of Mary amongst the dead during the night of Meraj, his spiritual journey to heaven; and that Death is inevitable for everyone including himself and, “The Dead are NOT sent back to this world.” 

The Fallacy is that a Metaphorical Narrative in the Hadith, about the Latter Days, was (then) made into a “Perfect Literation.” 

Historical Evidence to the “Original Muslim Belief” is that right after the holy demise of the Prophet Muhammad, may peace be on him, when some of the Muslim leaders denied his demise, the Quranic Reference presented to them by the first Caliph of Islam, Abu Bakr, to which everyone agreed was “Verily, all Messengers have passed away before him.  The Quran says:

And Muhammad is only a Messenger. Verily, all Messengers have passed away before him. If then he die or be slain, will you turn back on your heels? And he who turns back on his heels shall not harm Allah at all. And Allah will certainly reward the grateful. (Al Quran 3:145)

Irony of ironies is that had Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian not proclaimed to be “the Reformer of Latter days” as the one promised to bear the traits of Jesus son of Mary like John the Baptist bore the traits of Elijah; the Sunni Scholars wouldn’t have Carved the Elephant?

17 replies

  1. According to the Constitution of Pakistan: “A ‘Muslim’ means a person who believes in the unity and oneness of Allah, in the absolute and unqualified finality of the Prophethood of the Islamic prophet, Muhammad, and does not believe in, or recognize as a prophet or religious reformer, any person who claimed or claims to be a prophet, in any sense of the word or of any description whatsoever, after Muhammad.”

    Does any Sunni Pakistani remain a Muslim if he stills believes in the coming of an old prophet after the demise of the Holy Prophet(pbuh), per this definition?

    Does any Shia Pakistani remain a Muslim if he believes in a future Imam Mahdi who will be a world reformer, per this definition?

    I rather propose the definition of the founder of Islam who taught that a Muslim is one who professes ” La ilaaha ilallaho Mohammadur Rasouloullah”.

    If any government or group deviates from that definition, they will only spread evil.

  2. so which promised signs of imam mahdi has been fulfilled??

    the hadith literature such as musnad ahmad, sunan abu dawud and abu nu’aym book on mahdi state that Imam Mahdi will come from madina to makkah and be given pledge between the ka’bah and the station of ibraheem.

    imam mahdi will be caliph over the musllim ummah, be from ahle bayt and settle in jeruslaem.

    ahmadism can never reconcile its contradictions to the authentic ahadith.

    by the way sunni islam started about 14 centuries ago and that belief was common in the early best generations. all the reformers were sunni muslims and all of them agreed on the authenticity of theabove mentioned ahadith regarding the promised signs of imam mahdi.

  3. I cannot reply to the so called Ahadith. But I can tell that:
    1. Hazrat sahib (promished Messiah a.s.) was a Sunni Muslim. We must understand what is a Sunni Muslim. We have in India, few types of faiths:

    1. Ahle Quran, who say that everything is in the Quran. They deny the importance of Hadith an Sunnah.

    2. Ahle Sunnah who give importance to Sunnah after the Quran. That is the practice of the prophet s.a.w.s. They believe in the Hadith too.

    3. Ahle Hadith who give importance to Hadith (verbal sayings) of the prophet Muhammad s.a.ws. such as parvez sahib is doing (presenting).

    4. Ahle Tashi’e, are those who follow the Imams (may be 12 Imams) and ahle bait. They mostly deny the Khilafat of Abu bakr Rz.a. and Umar Rz.a. and uthman rz.a. And they have hatred against hazrat Aisha Rz.a.

    So, as I see, there are four major groups. They each may have some branches. But let us forget the branches. The four are clearly visible.

    The Ahmadis belong to the number two (2) above. Ahmadis believe, like all others, that the Quran is the top most. And after the Quran is importance of the Sunnah (The practice) of the holy prophet Muhammad s.a.w.s. That is defined by what he did from the very first day in front of every one, in the presence of many companions, persons.

    It does not means the words that he may have spoken at different time. Those verbal statements are called Hadith. Which parvez sahib is presenting again and again.

    After Sunnah, Ahmadis give due importance to hadith. Hadith has to be defined here. Hadith is slightly different to Sunnah. Sunnah was visible from the very first day. It was the practice of the prophet s.a.w.s. In other words, it was the practical translation of the Quran. It was observed by many in large numbers and adopted from beginning by observation.

    The Hadith are those things which are written in the books which were collected and written down, 100 years after the prophet s.a.w.s. They were useful things which the prophet s.a.w.s. said at different times. I give few examples:

    1. Paradise lies under the feet of your mothers.
    2. pay the worker before his sweat is dried.
    3. When there are three persons in a room, two persons should not try to speak to one another in very low tone (secrecy).

    There are so many useful guiding statements. Some of them may be describing the practice of the prophet s.a.w.s. too.

    These statements were not well known to every body. So the Imam Bukhari and Imam Muslim had to travel a lot to collect those sayings. They have importance after the Sunnah.

    In brief, hadith is to serve the Quran and Sunnah. It comes at third place, after Quran and Sunnah. There are special rules to check the authenticity of Ahadith.

  4. My above post was for Mr. parvez and in general. Now I reply to Dr. Mohamed Boodhun. Doctor sahib pointed out a very serious mistake in the constitution of Pakistan. Astaghfirullah.

    According to that, there will be no Muslim in Pakistan. To make sure that there is no Muslim in pakistan, they are trying to take affidavits, certificates from all Pakistanis every time, for passposts and ID Cards. Nobody is paying any attention to the serious fault in Constitution. Where are the maulvis?
    In the enmity of the Jama’at Ahmadiyah Muslimah, this is what the poor so called Muslims have got in return.

    That is, because their belief in a prophet after Muhammad is not unconditional. Even parvez sahib is also giving some conditions that no new prophet will be born,,,,, no one will be appointed as a new prophet, but old prophet can come. It is not strictly unconditional belief. According to the constitution of Pakistan, there is no Muslim in the whole world.

    Ahmadis never sign suuch a statement that is why they are being punished and side lined in all matters of voting and other rights, other facilities.

  5. @ ghulam

    what do you mean by stating that you can’t reply to the so called hadith. the hadith about imam mahdi is well established in reliable sources such as musnad ahmad, sunan abu dawud and sunan ibn majah.

    its clear that ahmadis are too embarassed to admit to their fallacy and their contradictions to the authentic hadith about the promised signs of Imam Mahdi. …

  6. To Dr. Mohamed Boodhun

    This is absolutely correct that none from the mankind is vested with an authority; to either discriminate; or to look down upon; or to attribute some meanings of own choice to someone’s belief; or to declare any other human being; an Infidel (Kaafir).

    The use of the word “Kufr” (infidelity) in the pure religious descriptions and narratives (scholarly contexts) has remained limited to express a state of “negation” to highlight its contrast to the state of “acceptance”. Both are in subjective linguistic treatments.

    Most unfortunately, Z. A. Bhutto and then General Zia ulHaque assumed (usurped) this sort of authority for themselves, for nothing but their political gains.

    Religious studies are a gentle phenomenon that requires; Fear of God, Kindness in Heart, Quest for the Truth and Impartial Inquisition. Otherwise, it is most likely to tantamount to what has happened in Pakistan.

    All Muslims who sign the declaration become infidels and all those who do not sign are already infidels per law of that land.

    This is not new; it did happen previously also during the Abbasid Caliphate in Baghdad and Tughlaq Sultanate in India.

  7. To Dr. Mohamed Boodhun

    Unlike those (mass mobilizer) Sunni Leaders; the following (few to name) from the “well versed Islamic scholars” never joined in Ahmadiyya belief but also never proclaimed any “Kufr” (infidelity) for Ahmadis:-

    Scholar’s Name School of Thought
    Maulana Muhammad Ali Johar Deuband – Jamiiet Ulemae Hind
    Maulana Shaukat Ali Deuband – Jamiiet Ulemae Hind
    Maulana Ubaid Ullah Sindhi Deuband – Jamiiet Ulemae Hind
    Maulana Najib Akbarabadi Deuband – Jamiiet Ulemae Hind
    Maulana Abdul Majid Daryabadi Ahle Hadith
    Maulana Abul Kalam Azad Deuband – Jamiiet Ulemae Hind
    Maulana Ghulam Rasool Mahr Deuband – Jamiiet Ulemae Islam
    Maulana Abdul Majeed Salik Deuband – Jamiiet Ulemae Islam
    Maulana Salahudin Ahmed Deuband – Jamiiet Ulemae Islam
    Maulana Hasrat Mohani Nadwatul Ulema
    Maulana Altaf Hussain Hali Nadwatul Ulema
    Shamsul Ulema Maulvi Mir Hassan Shiite (later) Nadwatul Ulema

    I feel concerned, should I start believing that they were “oblivious” of the Islamic Teachings and of the Ahmadiyya Belief ???????

  8. To Mr. Parvez

    You have every right to believe and preach that no messiah of the latter days has come, but you should please not assume a right for yourself to be the only correct interpreter of religious doctrines; including Ahadith (the sayings of the Holy Prophet of Islam – saw).

    If “all” of the religious narratives; Divine Scriptures (Holy Quran included) and the Sayings of Various Prophets (ahadith included) have to be taken in their “literal” then it will never be possible to comprehend any of the Divine Messages.

    The Religious Doctrines contain sublimed metaphors and symbolism as does any other form of eloquent speech (fazayul Kalam).

    I would sincerely like to invite the attention to the fact that insistence on “Only the Literal Meanings” has led to the following in the Religious History:-

    1. A large section of Bani Israel rejected all other Holy Prophets (as) after the demise of Holy Prophet Joseph (as). They believed that there will be “no prophet after Prophet Joseph (as)”.

    2. Judaism (till today) “rejects” the Holy Jesus (as) to be a Prophet of God – 2,014 years have passed.

    3. Judaism is (till today) waiting for the “Physical Return of Holy Prophet Elijah (as)” – 2,500 years have passed.

    4. Hinduism is (till toady) waiting for the “Physical Return of Holy Lord Krishna (as) – about 5,000 years have passed.

    5. All Christians, All Jews, All Hindus, All Zoroastrians, All Buddhists, All Sikhs and All other population in the world other than Muslims (till today) DO NOT accept the Prophethood of Hazrat Muhammad Almustafa the Holy Prophet of Islam – Exalted Peace and Blessings of All Almighty be always upon him – 1,500 years have already passed and most of them find “No Literal Synchronization” (till today) between the Islamic Prophethood and their own Religious Beliefs.

  9. there are literall and metaphorical interpretations but the islamic texts are not all allorgicall and thus becoming secret codes but rather they are clear guidance.

    the promised sign regarding the messiah isa ibn maryam is that he will perform salah in jerusalem [musnad ahmad], perform hajj [bukhari & muslim] and be buried in madina [ibn majah and other hadith litrature]. these signs are literral, it can’t be somehow mysterious predictions that decieve the majority of the ummah of holy prophet Muhammad (saw).

    @ ghulam

    where did you get the … idea that your leader is sometimes abraham, moses and ya’qub?!

    also you didnt answer my question regarding the possibility of more prophets to come? but rather you gave a long vague lecture

  10. @ ahmadis

    so which of the promised signs regarding Imam mahdi is literall?

    how is it possible to give a ludicrous mysterious (mis)interpretation to the signs that Imam mahdi will be given bay’at in makkah, imam mahdi will be caliph over the muslim ummah, imam mahdi will pray in jerusalem?!
    the above promises made by Muhammad (saw) is authentic, clear and literall not a mysterious secret code to decieve the majority of humanity!

    also the ahmadis still can’t understand due to their arrogance that Imam mahdi is different from the messiah isa ibn maryam.
    isa is from bani israel and isa had no father. Imam mahdi will be from ahle bayt whose father’s name will be abdullah. the messiah isa ibn maryam will pray behind Imam mahdi when isa first prays with imam mahdi.

    • let us just let Parvez wait for the Imam Mahdi that he is waiting for. It will be interesting how he interacts with the 2000+ year old body of Christ. If it will take him as long to convince Jesus to convert from his Jewish faith to the Muslim one as it takes Parvez to convince us of his views or as it takes us to convince Parvez of our views then his time will be up and he will die (again?)…

  11. @rafiq

    which signs regarding imam mahdi are literall?

    and which promised signs have been fulfilled? since ahmadism contradicts the apparent text of hadith.

    also are there more prophets to come? if so what are the signs? if not then why not?

  12. Miraculous ascend of isa ibn Maryam (as);
    It has been plainly stated in the Qur’an that Allah did raise ‘Eisa, may Allah bless him, to Himself and saved him from the evil designs of the Jews, the Murabbis try to confuse the simple facts by their twisting. And same is their attitude towards the Ahadith which clearly indicate that near the End of Times ‘Eisa, may Allah bless him, will descend from the Heavens. But as mostly Ahadith use the word نزل only which means ‘to descend’ they again twist such narrations by relating it to rather rare usage of the word which does not even fit the context of these narrations. Taking the spirit, context and the continuous and unanimous belief and understanding of Muslims of past 1400 years it is evident that those Ahadith do actually mean he will descend from the Heavens above. Infact there are many directives to this in various narrations.
    Meeting the Challenge
    Here are categorical Ahadith about the fact that ‘Eisa, may Allah bless him, was raised up alive to the Heavens and will descend from the Heavens above.
    Hadith 1
    عن ابن عباس قال: لما أراد الله أن يرفع عيسى إلى السماء خرج على أصحابه …ورفع عيسى من رَوْزَنَة في البيت إلى السماء

    Ibn Abbas said, “When Allah intended to raise ‘Eisa to the heavens, he went to his companions … and ‘Eisa ascended to the Heavens through an opening in the top of the house.”
    (Ibn Abi Hatim 4/431 Hadith 6266, Ibn Kathir 2/449. Ibn Kathir graded it Sahih)
    Hadith 2
    عن صفية أم المؤمنين رضي الله عنها أنها كانت إذا زارت بيت المقدس ، وفرغت من الصلاة في المسجد الأقصى صعدت على جبل زيتا فصلت عليه وقالت : هذا الجبل هو الذي رفع منه عيسى عليه السلام إلى السماء

    It is narrated from Ummul Momineen Safiya, may Allah be pleased with her, that when she visited Bait Al-Maqdis (i.e. Jerusalem) and finished prayers in Al-Aqsa Mosque she climbed up to Mt. Olives and prayed there as well and said: ‘This is the mountain from where ‘Eisa, may Allah bless him, was raised up to the Heavens.’ (Al-Tasrih bima Tawatar fi Nuzul Al-Masih Hadith 74 cf. Tafsir Fath Al-Aziz Surah 95)
    Hadith 3
    إن أبا هريرة رضي الله عنه قال : قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم : « كيف أنتم إذا نزل ابن مريم من السماء فيكم

    Narrated Abu Huraira, may Allah be pleased with him: Allah’s Messenger, may Allah bless him, said “What will be your condition when the son of Maryam (i.e. ‘Eisa) will descend amongst you from the heavens…?” (Baihaqi’s Asmaa wal Sifaat 2/432 Hadith 855)
    Baihaqi (RA) was recognized as a Mujaddid of 4th century A.H. by Ahmadis.
    Hadith 4
    عن أبى هريرة قال سمعت أبا القاسم الصادق المصدوق يقول …ثم ينزل عيسى بن مريم عليه وسلم من السماء فيؤم الناس

    Abu Huraira said: I heard Abul Qasim the Truthful and Trustworthy (i.e. Holy Prophet) say: ‘… then ‘Eisa ibn Maryam, on him be the peace, will descend from the heavens…’
    (Majma’ Al-Zawaid 7/349. Haithmi said, Bazzar has narrated it and all its narrators are those of the Sahih [i.e. Sahih Bukhari] except Ali bin Munzar and he is also trustworthy)
    Hadith 5
    قال ابن عباس : قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم : فعند ذلك ينزل أخي عيسى ابن مريم من السماء

    Ibn Abbas narrated: the Messenger of Allah, on whom be the blessings of Allah, said: ‘And near it (Bait al-Maqdis) will descend from the Heavens my brother ‘Eisa ibn Maryam.’
    (Kanzul Ummal 14/619 Hadith 39726)
    Compiler of Kanzul Ummal, Ali Muttaqi Al-Hindi (RA) was recognized as a Mujaddid of 10th century A.H. by Muslims.
    Hadith 6
    عن ابن عباس { إن تعذبهم فإنهم عبادك } يقول : عبيدك قد استوجبوا العذاب بمقالتهم { وإن تغفر لهم } أي من تركت منهم ومد في عمره حتى أهبط من السماء إلى الأرض يقتل الدجال ، فنزلوا عن مقالتهم ووحدوك

    About the verse, ‘If you punish them they are your servants’ Ibn Abbas said, he [‘Eisa] will say: ‘These slaves of yours have invited your chastisement by what they said [and believed]’. ‘And if you forgive them’ i.e. ‘those whom I left behind me and those who were there when I came down from the Heavens to Earth to kill al-Dajjal and they turned back from what they said [i.e. Trinity] and believed in your Oneness…’
    (Durr Manthur 4/27 Under Surah 5 Ayah 118)
    The writer of Durr Manthur, Jalaluddin Suyuti (RA) was recognized as a Mujaddid of 9th century A.H. by Muslims.

    “And say: “Truth has (now) arrived, and Falsehood perished: for Falsehood is (by its nature) bound to perish.”” (The Holy Qur’an, Surah Al-Isra (17), Ayah 81)
    “Our Lord, let not our hearts deviate after You have guided us and grant us from Yourself mercy. Indeed, You are the Bestower.” [Quran ch 3 vs 8]

  13. The following are explicit hadith that clearly state that Imam Mahdi is different from the Messiah Isa (as);

    Based on Abu Umamah Al-Bahili, Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم said: ” Every Kaafir (Disbeliever) who smells his sweet breath will die and his breath will reach as far as he can see. On seeing prophet Jesus عليه السلام , Imam Mahdi will take a couple of steps backwards so Prophet Jesus عليه السلام can lead the prayer; however, Prophet Jesus عليه السلام will place his hands on the Imam’s shoulder and will say: ‘Go forward and lead the prayer as the Iqamah was made for you’. Thus Imam Mahdi will lead the prayer.” (Ibn-Majah).

    The prophet (saw) said; “My Ummah cannot be destroyed in whose beginning is me, in whose end is ‘Eisa and in whose middle is al-Mahdi.”
    (Kanzul Ummal 14/266 Hadīth 38671 cf. Kitabul Mahdi of Abu Na’im, Classified as Hasan by Al-Azizi in Siraj Al-Munir Sharah Jami’ Saghir 3/196)

    Al-Manawi in his exegesis to this Hadith writes;
    أراد بالوسط ما قبل الآخر لأن نزول عيسى لقتل الدجال يكون في زمن المهدي ويصلي عيسى خلفه
    “By أوسط ‘before the end’ is meant for the descent of ‘Eisa (AS) to kill Dajjal will take place during the time of al-Mahdi and he (‘Eisa) will pray behind him.” (Faidh Al-Qadir 5/383 Hadith 7384)
    Abdullah Ibn Abbas (ra) Prophet of AllahPBUH said “My Umma (adherents) shall not extinguish because I am at the beginning and Isa (JesusAS) the son of Mariam (MaryAS) is at the end and Imam MahdiAS who is from my progeny (Ahl-e-Bait) is in the middle”. [Hakim, Abu Na’im, Imam Jafar, Yahya Bin Abdullah & Musnad Ahmad]

    Below are hadith that says Isa (as) was raised up alive

    Hadith 7
    Thalabi and Zamakhshari mentioned the Hadith from Abu Huraira that the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) said;”Isa will descend from the Heavens.”
    [Tafsir Qurtabi under Quran chapter 43 verse 61; “And indeed, Jesus will be a sign of the Hour, so be not in doubt of it, and follow Me. This is a straight path.”]
    Note that Zamakhshari accepted the belief of Ahle Sunnah near the end of his life.
    Hadith 8
    Al Hasan Al Basri said; “Allah raised and lifted up Jesus alive with his body and soul.” [Tafsir Ibn Abi Hatim on Quran 3:55]
    Hadith 9
    Prophet Muhammad (saw) said; “Allah (swt) raised Isa ibn Maryam (as) to the heavens.” [Bayhaqi]
    Hadith 10
    Hasan (RA) narrated: “The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said to the Jews, ‘Jesus the son of Mary has not died, he will return to earth before the Doomsday.'” (Al-Tabari H.7133)

    Narrated from Ibn Abbas, he said: “… and verily Allah raised him [Eisa ibn Maryam] with his body while he was alive and he will soon return to this world and will be a ruler therein. Then he will die as other people die.” (Ibn S’ad’ Tabaqat Al-Kubra 1/53)

    Al-Wahidi gives the particular sentence in the narration of both Al-Tabari and Ibn Abi Hatim regarding the delegation of najra the wording is:
    ألستم تعلمون أن ربَّنا حيّ لا يموت، وأنّ عيسى يأتي عليه الفناء؟
    “Do you not know that Our Lord (Allah) is ever living but death will come to Jesus?”
    (Tafsir Al-Tabari 6/154 Narration. 6544, Ibn Abi Hatim 9/408. Both have brought it under verse 1 of Surah 3)

  14. the baove article is misleading.

    The literall ascension and return of the one and only messiah was believed by early muslims as proved in the hadith literature as i have proven above

  15. Most important sign of the promised messiah is not that “he will perform salah in jerusalem [musnad ahmad], perform hajj [bukhari & muslim] and be buried in madina [ibn majah and other hadith litrature]. these signs are literral,

    Most important sign of the messiah Ibne Maryam is that he will break the Cross and kill the Dajjal? That Hadith is mentioned in Bukhari and Muslim both? Every one knows that those things (breaking the Cross and killing swine) are only symbolic, not literal. So Isa Ibne Maryam is also symbolic, not literal.

    Then there is the Hadith “How happy you will be when Isa ibne Maryam will arrive amongst you and (he) will be your Imam from amongst yourself.

    I had given the Hadith (Ibne Majah) that “in the end times there will be lot of turmoil and wars and Fitnah…and there is no Mahdi except Isa.”

    Tawaffa means passing away ( i.e. death) as that word is used in the Quran to take the soul and leave the body. It is also recited in the Salaat Janazah twice. It means death.
    I mentioned the hadith about two signs for our Mahdi, it is noted in the Shia and Sunni books (Ikmaaluddin and Darqutni). Ahmadis have not invented that hadith. That Hadith is narrated by Ahle Bait that the Moon and the Sun will be eclipsed on special dates in the same month of Ramadhan as a sign for Imam Mahdi a.s. This eclipse of the Moon and the Sun occurred in 1894 A.D. when Imam Mahdi, Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad a.s. of Qadian was present in the world with his claim of Imam Mahdi.

    We should understand the meaning of Dajjal and Yajooj Majooj and the donkey of Dajjal. It should be understood that Dajjal is the group of Christian preachers who are roaming the world with their bibles, trying to invite people to Christianity. They are non-political religious people.
    The Yajooj Majooj are the political powers, Russia ,Germany, UK, USA.
    The donkey of Dajjal is the modern day communication machinery, Train, aero plane,trucks and buses, cars, motorcycles, telephones.

    When the Dajjal will melt away, and infidels will die with the breath of Isa a.s. then why Isa a.s will start any war in the world. All these things are also symbolic. They are not literal. Imam Mahdi a.s. will also not start any war and will never shed any blood. Wars due to religious difference will be stopped.

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