Joel Osteen Very Articulate about Avoiding Pork

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    • Rafiq— I heard that Pastor Joel still follow the ancient interpretation of God’s law who lack of knowledge of healthy food and nutrition like Islamic extremist clerics from Saudi Arabia.

      In 21 century, Prok eat healthy food, they do not eat the rotten food any more— also chicken and fist used to eat human’s waste, animal’s waste but to day they eat healthy food.

      God sent His laws according to condition of people— at the primitive time 3000 years ( Taurat) 2000 years ago ( Gospel$ and 1430 years ago ( Al Quran)
      Can you imagine it Rafiq?? How primitive did people live at that time!

      If you want to see primitive people how do they live
      Watch this vudeo, you will relize it

      Give me your respond after you watch it


      • Nothing will change Somi’s views. And may be not ours. So please permit me to delete future ‘pork’ discussions.

  1. God has given People The general guidance in Islam as follow;
    Definition of lawful ( Halal) and unlawful (Haram ) as Allah and Prophet Muhammad (saw) said in Holy Quran; Allows them as lawful what is good and prohibits them from what is bad. QS 7;157. ( Islam is very logical religion.)

    The “Label Halal Foods “ is the ridiculous interpretation of Islam by the extremist wahhabi clerics from Saudi Arabia and extremist Syiah clerics Iran.

    Those who follow this guidance what food and drink you want to eat and drink will be fine.

    May God guide Muslim to the right path of Islam

    • Somi, you can eat all the pork you want with family and trust that no one will stop you. Just remember that only you eill be answerable for it on the day of judgement, then you can call it ridiculous interpretation of Haram. I think that answer will satisfy Somi cuz nothing else will get through to Somi.

  2. After so many facts, a reasonable and wise person can’t deny the truth. We can’t say but “arguing for sake of arguing “

  3. Peace— give me your interpretation of this guidance from God about haram and halal in Islam.

    Definition of lawful ( Halal) and unlawful (Haram ) as Allah and Prophet Muhammad (saw) said in Holy Quran; Allows them as lawful what is good and prohibits them from what is bad. QS 7;157. ( Islam is very logical religion.)


    • SOMI, your answer

      The term “halal” means “that which is lawful for you”; thus halal meat is that which has been slaughtered in the name of Allah, and has had the blood drained out from it. The term “haram” means that which is unlawful for you, and includes blood, pork and alcohol. Allah has further commanded that you eat only what is “tayyab,” that is, food that is good and wholesome. Something may be halal, but it may not be tayyab, and thus should be avoided. Islam teaches that the condition of the body affects the condition of the spirit, and thus great care should be taken to keep one’s body healthy and fit. Islam further teaches that all food should be taken in moderation, and nothing should be indulged into excess.

      There is no good reason for not eating halal meat at all times, unless you are somewhere where it is absolutely unavailable. Halal meat can usually be obtained in Muslim stores. However, if it is totally unavailable, then it is permissible to eat meat from regular markets and invoke the name of Allah over it before cooking and eating it.

      The first three categories are prohibited because they are harmful to the body, and that which is harmful to the body is harmful to the spirit. The last prohibition relates to something which is directly harmful morally and spiritually, as it amounts to association of others with God. Allah has made the provision that a believer may use prohibited food if absolutely necessary; i.e., if it is a matter of life and death.

      For ALCOHOL

      Allah commands Muslims in the Holy Qur’an:

      “O ye who believe! wine and the game of chance… are only an abomination of Satan’s handiwork. So shun each one of them that you may prosper. Satan seeks only to create enmity and hatred among you by means of wine and games of chance, and to keep you back from the remembrance of Allah and from Prayer…” (5:91-92)

      The Arabic word “al-khamr” is used in this verse which means anything that intoxicates or alters the mind. Thus, all forms of intoxicants are forbidden. The verse clearly explains the problems created by the use of intoxicants; first, they lead to hatred and enmity amongst people, causing murder, violence, immoral behavior etc.; and secondly they lead people away from Allah and His religion. Allah wants the believers to keep their minds pure and clean, so that they worship Him fully. A Muslim may not offer prayers (salaat) when he is not in full possession of his senses, even if that is caused by excessive emotion or a state of sleep. Certainly, a mind that is intoxicated is not able to focus on Allah.

      For SWINE

      The Holy Qur’an says:

      “O ye who believe, eat of the good things We have provided for you, and render thanks to Allah, if it is He Whom you worship.

      He has made unlawful to you only that which dies of itself, and blood, and the flesh of swine, and that on which the name of any other than Allah has been invoked. But he who is driven by necessity, being neither disobedient nor exceeding the limit, it shall be no sin for him. Surely, Allah is Most Forgiving, Merciful.” (2:173,174)

      (reference Pathway to Paradise,

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