Le Pen targets halaal and kosher food: French National Front to stop Muslim and Jewish pupils having pork-free school dinners

The Independent: France’s far-right National Front party will prevent schools from offering Muslim and Jewish pupils pork-free lunches in the towns where it won in recent local elections, its leader Marine Le Pen announced on Friday.

“We will not accept any religious demands in school menus,” Le Pen told RTL radio. “There is no reason for religion to enter the public sphere, that’s the law.”

France has seen periodic controversies over schools that substitute pork on menus to cater to Muslim and Jewish children, while some of the FN’s new mayors complain there are too many halal shops in their towns.

But Muslims view France, which is officially a secular republic despite being overwhelmingly Catholic, as imposing its values on them and other religious minorities. In 2011, a controversial law was introduced banning full-face veils in public.

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  1. “We will not accept any religious demands in school menus,” Le Pen told RTL radio. “There is no reason for religion to enter the public sphere, that’s the law.”

    My respond.

    1.I agree based on Al Quran, Government have to be neutral, do not take a side of religion.

    Old interpretation from ancient Arab scholars, and Moses’ followers, forbid to eat pork and drink alcohol ( for Muslim).

    Modern interpretation by progressive scholars who live in 21 st century, with science and technology,
    Pork is eatable as long as not to much.
    Alcohol is drinkable as long as not to much

    Please ponder what Allah said.

    MEAT OF PORK
    He only prohibits for you the eating of animals that die of themselves (without human interference), blood, the meat of pigs, and animals dedicated to other than GOD. If one is forced (to eat these), without being malicious or deliberate, he incurs no sin. GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful. [QS.2:173] [QS.5:3]

    ALCOHOL
    They ask you about intoxicants and gambling: say, “In them there is a gross sin, and some benefits for the people. But their sinfulness far outweighs their benefit.” They also ask you what to give to charity: say, “The excess.” GOD thus clarifies the revelations for you, that you may reflect

    From verses above state clearly that God suggested people do not eat to much pork and do not drink to much alcohol.

    According to science of health (hygiene)was explained that Pork contains harmful fat.Scientist recommend NOT to eat pork to much, the same as Alcohol. do not drink to much.

    Therefore, Pork and Alcohol are not 100 percent HARAM, or unclean thing as ancient Scholar thought.
    Ancient Scholar did not have such science that we have today. That is why ancient Muslim Scholar say that Pork and alcohol was unclean or Haram.

    Al Quran did not mention all kind of meats, only Pork as a sample. But there many of meat/fish that has poison can harm to human health.

    Every thing of meat/fish/ drink that harm people health is Haram, or forbidden.

    Muslim who live in 21st Century have to use knowledge, science and technology, otherwise, religion become a dogma as ancient people beliefs
    Ancient people believe his Idol.like; Stone, tree, Sun etc..

    So those scholars say that Pork,alcohol are unclean is absolutely wrong and mislead people.

    PLEASE PONDER THIS VERSE CAREFULLY.

    And such are the Parables We set forth for mankind, but only those understand them who have Knowledge.QS 29:43

    Verily never will Allah change the condition of a people until they change it themselves . QS .13:11.

    If you refuse to learn, you are hurting yourself. If you accept correction, you will become wiser. Proverb.

    “If you do love Allah, follow me: Allah will love you and forgive you your sins; for Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” QS 3:31.

    Ask forgiveness from your Lord; for He is Oft-Forgiving; (10) “`He will send rain to you in abundance; (11) “`Give you increase in wealth and sons; and bestow on you Gardens and bestow on you rivers (of flowing water). (12) QS 71;10-12,

    May Allah give the guidance of the right path and ask Allah for forgiveness. Then may Allah give them His grace, love and mercy.

    For You from My Heart.
    All those who read shall pass on my words to others and those to others again; O Allah,
    be my witness, that I have conveyed your message to your people.

    With all my love
    Wassalamu’alaikum wrwb

  2. Muslim children not only need halal neat and Eid Holidays but they need state funded Muslim schools with Muslim teachers as role models during their development period also. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school.

    The schools must satisfy the spiritual, moral, social, and cultural needs of Muslim pupils. State schools with non-Muslim monolingual teachers are not in a position to satisfy their needs. A good school is not just a knowledge factory or a conveyor belt for churning out exam passes – it is a community, a family. A community is held together by common values and principles.

    It is a common saying that British schooling is upholding British values of integration, respect, tolerance and equality. But all minority groups find British schooling is the home of institutional racism and British teachers are chicken racist. This is one of the many reason why they would like to see their children attending their own schools with their own teachers. Muslim community started setting up school in the 80s and I set up the first Muslim school in 1981 and now there are 180 Muslim schools and only 12 are state funded. Sikh and Hindu communities have set up their own schools. Now Black community is thinking of setting up schools with their own teachers.

    Western media and politicians have been trying their best to propagate against Muslim schools. Muslim schools are even called Osama bin Laden Academies by a Teaching Union. Only less than 5% of Muslim children attend Muslim schools while more than 95% are in state schools to be mis-educated and de-educated by non-Muslim monolingual teachers. The demand for state funded Muslim schools is in accordance with the law of the land. Muslim community is not asking for any favour. Muslim community pays all sorts of taxes and is less burden on social services. Church leaders say it is no longer “appropriate” for them to run Sacred Heart RC Primary School which has just six Christian pupils. The school in Blackburn, Lancs, could be handed to the nearby Masjid-e-Tauheedul mosque.

    The Muslim community has been passing through a phase of fourth Crusades. The battleground is the field of education, where the young generation will be educated properly with the Holly Quran in one hand and Sciences in other hand to serve the British society and the world at large. A true Muslim is a citizen of the world, which has become a small global village. We are going to prepare our youth to achieve that objective in the long run. A true Muslim believes in Prophet Moses and the Prophet Jesus and without them one cannot be a Muslim. My suggestion is that in all state, independent and Christian based school special attention should be given to the teaching of Comparative Religion and Islam should be taught by qualified Muslim Teachers to make the children aware the closeness of Islam to Christianity and Judaism which will help them to think about Islam, as “A Pragmatic and Modern Way of Life,” during their life time.

    Muslim schooling is on the rise in the West. Anti-Muslim attitudes in state schools contribute to its growth. there are 240 to 250 private Islamic schools in the U.S and 188 Muslim schools in the United Kingdom and out of that 12 are state funded. The increasing enrolment in these schools reflects the religion’s growing number of Muslims and the desire of parents to shelter young Muslims from discrimination and discomfort they might encounter at state schools. But Islamic schools, like mosques and other Islamic institutions, can be viewed with distrust and even hostility. Jewish Schools in Israel teach Children about Evolution. They have a curious way of teaching it. They said the Jews were made by god and the Palestinians evolved from apes. On the other hand, Muslim schools teach children that human beings are from Adam and Eve(peace be upon them)

    The demand for Muslim schools comes from parents who want their children a safe environment with an Islamic ethos. Parents see Muslim schools where children can develop their Islamic Identity where they won’t feel stigmatised for being Muslims and they can feel confident about their faith. Muslim schools are working to try to create a bridge between communities. There is a belief among ethnic minority parents that the British schooling does not adequately address their cultural needs. Failing to meet this need could result in feeling resentment among a group who already feel excluded. Setting up Muslim school is a defensive response. State schools with monolingual teachers are not capable to teach English to bilingual Muslim children. Bilingual teachers are needed to teach English to such children along with their mother tongue. According to a number of studies, a child will not learn a second language if his first language is ignored.

    “A good grasp of one’s mother tongue is an essential base for a child who then has to get to grips with the language of their host country,” reckons Amelia Lambelet of the Fribourg Institute of Multilingualism. Therese Salzmann, an expert in multilingualism at the Swiss Institute of Youth and Media, agrees. “The teaching of mother tongues reinforces self-confidence and gives the child a feeling of security.” She adds that “taking account of a child’s double cultures is a determining factor in their social integration and professional success.”

    It is absurd to believe that Muslim schools, Imams and Masajid teach Muslim children anti-Semitic, homophobic and anti-western views. It is dangerously deceptive and misleading to address text books and discuss them out of their historical, cultural and linguistic context. It is not wrong to teach children that Jews are committing the same cruelty in Palestine what German did to them before or during Second World War. It is not wrong to teach children that anti-social behaviour, drinking, drugs, homosexuality, sex before marriage, teenage pregnancies and abortions are western values and Islam is against all such sins. This does not mean that Muslim schools teach children to hate westerners, Jews and homosexuals.

    British society must learn to respect and tolerate those who are different. God has created diverse human beings to live in this tiny global village of one family. Creation by its very nature is diverse with different species, different communities, different cultures and languages. These differences represent the beauty and wonder but diversity is sometimes not fully appreciated, resulting in all sorts of clashes. The British society and Establishment must learn to respect and accommodate others, as if in a family. A report by the Institute for Community Cohesion found that native parents were deserting some schools after finding their children out numbered by pupils from ethnic minorities. Schools in parts of England are becoming increasingly segregated. The study focused on 13 local authorities. Many of the schools and colleges are segregated and this was generally worsening over recent years. This is RACISM because British society is the home of institutional racism. A study by Bristol University reveals that a high level of racial segregation in Oldham schools and tension between communities resulted in recent riots in 2001. The solution is that those schools where Muslim children are majority, may be designated as Muslim community schools. The native parents do not want their children to be educated along with migrant children. As soon as they find that the number of other children are on the increase, they remove their children to those schools where native children are in majority.

    During colonial days, British did not follow local customs or culture. They didn’t exactly “go native”. They even forced the native Americans and native Australian to adopt all the evils of their culture and customs. They are still the underdogs of American and Australian societies. At least Australian Prime Minister apologised to the natives for their evil deeds. Brits living in Spain and France don’t even bother learning the language of the new adopted country. Frankly suggesting that people don’t want to become “British” they should move elsewhere is extremely irritating. Immigrants are in UK because they are needed, it was never an act of charity. Without migration, British economy and society will bleed to death. British culture and customs will undoubtedly change as it has for millennium due to immigration. I am not quite sure why Brits would be worried about that.

    You better teach your children in your own schools and let migrant communities teach their children according to their needs and demands. British Establishment and society should concentrate on the evils of their own society and stop trying to change the way of life of Muslims. Muslim community does not want to integrate with the British society, indulging in incivility, anti-social behaviour, drug and knife culture, binge drinking, teenage pregnancies and abortion. Prince Charles, while visiting the first grant maintained Muslim school in north London, said that the pupils would be the future ambassadors of Islam. But what about thousands of others, who attend state schools deemed to be “sink schools”? In education, there should be a choice and at present it is denied to the Muslim community. In the late 80s and early 90s, when I floated the idea of Muslim community schools, I was declared a “school hijacker” by an editorial in the Newham Recorder newspaper in east London. This clearly shows that the British media does not believe in choice and diversity in the field of education and has no respect for those who are different. Muslim schools, in spite of meager resources, have excelled to a further extent this year, with couple of schools achieving 100% A-C grades for five or more GCSEs. They beat well resourced state and independent schools in Birmingham and Hackney. Muslim schools are doing better because a majority of the teachers are Muslim. The pupils are not exposed to the pressures of racism, multiculturalism and bullying.

    There are hundreds of state primary and secondary schools where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion all such schools may be opted out to become Muslim Academies. This mean the Muslim children will get a decent education. Muslim schools turned out balanced citizens, more tolerant of others and less likely to succumb to criminality or extremism. Muslim schools give young people confidence in who they are and an understanding of Islam’s teaching of tolerance and respect which prepares them for a positive and fulfilling role in society. Muslim schools are attractive to Muslim parents because they have better discipline and teaching Islamic values. Children like discipline, structure and boundaries. Bilingual Muslim children need Bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods, who understand their
    needs and demands.
    Iftikhar Ahmad
    London School of Islamics Trust

  3. Quote–; In 2011, a controversial law was introduced banning full-face veils in public.–Quote

    My respond’
    I understand after 11/9 2001, and then many women who wear Burqa to commit suicide.

    From experience bad people ,a murder wear mask to commit the murder.

    From Security reason, we understand well that Government France have to ban those who full-face veil in public.

    Why these bad thing happened in some Europe states?

    Because of some bad Muslim women and man commit the act terrorist to kill innocent people barbarically.

    Now, women have to obey the rule of authority, even you do not like it, against your beliefs. But do not feel guilty you do not wear Burqa, veil, Hijan etc.

    Because veil, or burqa is not OBLIGATION such as shalat, fasting and pay “zakat”
    To wear burqa or veil was suggestion from God who live in wild desert. To protect women face from hot wild desert that can harm them.

    Those who live in out side of desert do not need to close you face anymore.

    To obey authority, it means you obey Allah commandment as below.

    Everyone must obey state authorities, because no authority exists without God’s
    permission, and the existing authorities have been put there by God.Whoever opposes the existing authority opposes what God has ordered .Roman 13:1-2).

    O you who believe, obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you.QS 4;59
    Hadist: Listen and obey your authority, though he struck your back and take your wealth force (Hr Muslim)

    May Allah guide women to the truth of Islamic teaching, Ameen

    All love

    PLEASE PONDER THESE VERSES CAREFULLY.
    Allah said;

    Consequence of following the false Hadits Muslim.
    Whatever of good reaches you, is from Allâh, but whatever of evil befalls you, is from yourself.QS 4;79.

    That is due to what your hands sent ahead, and that Allah is not cruel to (His) servants.” QS 8;(51)

    And We will certainly make them taste the nearer punishment before the greater punishment, so that they may return. QS. 6 : (21).

    Then Allah made them taste disgrace in the worldly life, and of course the punishment of the Hereafter is much greater. Only if they knew! QS 39:(26)

    Whosoever does a good deed, it is for his own self, and whosoever does evil, it is against (his ownself). Then to your Lord you will be made to return. QS 45;(15)

    All love

  4. @ Iftikhar Ahmad

    Quote–Western media and politicians have been trying their best to propagate against Muslim schools. Muslim schools are even called Osama bin Laden Academies by a Teaching Union—Quote

    After 11/9 2001, non Muslim feel unsafe to live beside Muslim. Because extremist Muslim is killing,not military, not army, but innocent people, even Children till TODAY..

    As long as Muslim School do not teach “hatred” toward other religion, race and gender, it will fine ans will be accepted by international community.

    These world is getting closer, we live in plurality, diversity of beliefs and diversity of culture. Muslim Scholars have to be wiser to teach his student, otherwise, non Muslim have the right to be caution.

    I URGE all Muslim Maddrassah, and schools to teach student; love all people, accept the different idea, though, beliefs, and interpretation of Islam, tolerance, forgiveness and live in harmony.
    This is the CORE of Islamic teaching.

    We always claim that Islam is peaceful religion, and mercy for mankind , but the reality, is NOT.

    We see today there is going on conflict, violence and killing innocent people, even children and women. very very heartbreaking, and so sad.

    We need a reformation how to live in peace, harmony within different religion, beliefs and cultures. We need a Modern Interpretation of Islam according to the development of science and human culture.

    Allah said; hate stir up trouble,and then conflict.
    Therefore, Pleas DO NOT TEACH HATRED TO OUR CHILDREN, INSTEAD TEACH THEM LOVE, LOVE ,LOVE, LOVE ALL PEOPLE regardless his beliefs, religion, race, culture, gender and age.

    May Allah guide all Muslim teachers the truth of Islam,Ameen

    All love

  5. Subject: Terror Attacks

    The true honest practicing Muslims were all absolutely shocked and remorseful about what happened in Boston and Woolwich. This is a huge tragedy and a loss for all as humanitarians. This is so sad. Muslim community unconditionally condemns and repudiates the bombings that took place in Boston and brutal killing of a British soldier. We share the pain of fellow Americans and Brits and express our sincere condolences to the families and friends of those who were killed or injured in this vicious attack. The killing of innocents can never be justified. And, it is our hope that the perpetrator(s) of this horrible act soon be apprehended and brought to justice. There is about 1.6 billion Muslims in the world, and how many commit atrocities like this? And last time I checked the Aurora shooter’s and the Sandy Hook shooter’s religious beliefs were not publicized and connected to their acts. Religion is only an important factor when its not Christian.

    It seems the victim was a soldier. Does that make any difference? It seems the two assassins did not try to escape, and the police when the arrived shot them both. So the perpetrators were both prosecuted to the full extent lawlessly. I go only by what has been reported on the TV news, but summary justice has no place in civilized society whoever does it and whether by machete or by drones. Two wrongs do not make a right. We are not the USA. Criminals must be brought to trial, not arbitrarily murdered.

    Terrorism and sexual grooming is nothing to do with Masajid, Imams and Muslim schools. Those Muslim youths who have been involved in terrorism and sexual grooming are the product of western education system which makes a man stupid, selfish and corrupt. They find themselves cut off from their cultural heritage, literature and poetry. They suffer from identity crises and I blame British schooling. Masajid, Imams, Muslim schools and Madrassas are not teaching hatred against non-Muslims. They teach Muslim children that homosexuality is a sin. This does not mean that they are teaching hatred.

    Why is the NATO merrily slaughtering thousands of innocent people and children every week with these drones and not called to heel? Why is the mass scale of these daily atrocities and carnage never reported and just callously written off as collateral damage? This not a war on terrorism at all, and its more than blatant bullying. This actually IS terrorism. And the worst of it is that our government despite all the death and destruction, are happy to stain their hands with the blood of collateral damage too. Its all so horribly wrong!And this is what gives fuel to terrorists and the real reason they hate the west. Thousands of innocent children and women killed by these.

    A vast majority of people in this world just want to live their lives with their families and friends, and don’t give a hoot about what other people do, as long as they can go on with their families and friends. I find it almost impossible to believe that most Muslims want to kill people who don’t share their views. The matter at hand is how to change the mind-set of people so a higher percentage does not turn to violence. One should not lump all individuals of any particular Faith in with the violent actions of a few misguided individuals who USE Religion to justify their violent actions. Every now and then a Muslim kills in the US and some people jump on ALL Muslims, as though WHITES, CHRISTIANS or otherwise, do not kill. They forget that non-Muslim killing far outnumbers Muslim killing in the US. They call for the expulsion of Muslims. The BEST SOLUTION would be for all FOREIGNERS to go back to their roots and return the country to the original AMERICAN NATIVES. Is this not a FAIR PROPOSAL? LOL! You white Christians have destroyed the Native Americans and it is only fair and right that YOU be destroyed by other communities.

    The IRA was a TERRORIST organization who bombed schools full of children, massacred innocents and put bombs in busy London subway stations …oh, and thy were all “devout” Roman Catholics …..how many Catholics were blamed for this and generalized as terrorists? ..I’m just saying.
    Iftikhar Ahmad
    London School of Islamics Trust
    http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk

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