Orientalists ‘spreading false views on Islam’

A leading Islamic scholar, and a winner of the King Faisal International Prize for Islamic Studies, has slammed orientalists in the West for spreading false information about the religion.
Muhammad Mustafa Azmi, who specializes in Hadith studies, said: “Their false and misleading works are now called research but have no valid arguments.”
He was speaking at a workshop organized by Lajna Ilmiya, a Riyadh-based body formed by graduates from Darul Uloom Deoband, the renowned Islamic seminary in India, on Friday.
“Nowadays their voices are louder than others; they are read and heard all over the world. All their misleading work is called research and even some groups of educated Muslims are influenced by them,” he said.
He urged Islamic teachers to preach righteousness and truth.
Azmi is best known for his critical investigation of the theories of orientalists Ignác Goldziher, David Margoliouth and Joseph Schacht and is currently a professor emeritus at King Saud University.
“If we had followed the Qur’an and Hadith in our education, the misleading gossip of the enemies of Islam would not have influenced many of us.”
Earlier, he also urged the Ummah to use the Hijri calendar as the government is doing in the Kingdom, or alongside the Christian calendar.
Azmi is the first person to computerize the Hadith in the Arabic language, was an associate professor at Umm Al-Qura university, visiting scholar at the University of Michigan, and visiting fellow at St. Cross College, Oxford.
Much of his work has focused on correcting the inadequacies of Western scholarship on Hadith literature, especially highlighting the fact that there was already intense literary activity involving Hadiths during the lifetime of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).
Lajna Ilmiya hosted the workshop entitled “From the Cradle to the Grave” to spread awareness among schoolchildren about Islam’s rich history.
It also hosted an Islamic quiz competition for students. A huge number of Indian and Pakistani expatriates, including women and children, attended the event.



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  1. Ha! Ha! Ha! Your “a leading Islamic scholar, and a winner of the King Faisal International Prize for Islamic Studies (Muhammad Mustafa Azmi, has slammed orientalists in the West for spreading false information about the religion.” has tripped himself in his zeal when according to you he “urged the Ummah to use the Hijri calendar as the government is doing in the Kingdom, or alongside the Christian calendar.”
    THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A “CHRISTIAN CALENDAR”. The Cnristian Church’s “calendar year” starts after the Feast of Christ the King in November. The Calendar THE WORLD FOLLOWS is not Christian by any sense of the word. Go figure.

  2. If the Darul Uloom Deobandi is a ‘renowned seminary’ in India, why has it been so severely criticized for its extreme teachings which sometimes are compared to those emanating from the Wahhabi University in Riyadh otherwise known as the ‘terrorist factory’? I may be wrong, but I think it is said that the Deobandis are among those violently persecuting the Ahmadis. There is no solid evidence to back this up.

    • Darul Uloom world famous Islamic seminary has issued fatwas like these.
      1. Modelling is Unislamic
      2. A womans voice should not carry to men who are not related.
      3. No working in an office in male company without a veil
      4. Cycling or wearing perfumes – Unislamic
      5. Women’s salary is haram.
      6. Women cannot be judges.
      7. No talking to fiancee before marriage.
      8. Tight fitting outfits & contraceptives are unislamic.(Contraceptives can be used only if a Hakim or Unani (islamic medicine) practitioner (read Quack) allows it.
      & Darul Uloom is not the only one we also have Mahmood Madani of the Jamiat Ulema-I-Hind who has come out with TV, Birth Control, Entertainment is unislamic & are SATANIC TOOLS & there are many more such Islamic clerics with more stupid fatwas.
      So it is not just a Deobandi sickness it seems to be a Pan Islamic epidemic.

  3. Dear Ashok Saldanha, I do not agree with you in “There is no Christian calendar.”
    The calendar being used all over the world i.e. Universal Calendar is linked with the prophet Jesus Christ, even if it may be a few years offline.
    It is now year 2014. To what system will you attach this year, to what great personality or event?
    I believe it is related to Jesus Christ a.s. according to the promise of Allah that he gave to Mary (the mother) before the birth of Jesus Christ.
    It is the will of Allah that the name of Jesus should never be forgotten.
    Please guide me to the present day calendar being used by all nations, Hindu, Muslim, Christians, Atheists, Jews, Chinese. They all have their own calendar too for their own use in limited area. But all of them are obliged to use the Calendar which emanates (nearly) from the birth of Jesus a.s.
    It has been, in the past, called C.E. calendar, meaning Christian Era calendar. Welcome.

    • How wrong you are? There is NO Christian Calendar. What the world is following is called a “Civil Calendar”. First was the Julian Calendar which followed the Roman Calendar. What the world follows today is the Gregorian Calendar named after Pope Gregory XIII.
      NO ONE knows when Jesus was born NOT EVEN allah. So your inference that the Civil Calendar starts from Jesus’ birth is incorrect. I do not think it is proper to drag allah into this argument.
      Jesus will be remembered not for “the start of a Calendar” but because of John 3:16.

    • Ghulam Sarwar,
      The calendar had to start somewhere so what better than O (Zero) AD a hypothetical date as I said previously (What doe “very close to the date of Jesus’ birth” mean?) It means “not sure” “no one knows – not even allah). I am not denying anything because you have confirmed what I wrote by calling it an International Calendar which it is, a far cry from when you started by calling it “Christian Calendar”, and further you add “It is now a civil calendar, that means Christian calendar is the civil universal calendar.”
      CIVIL cannot be CHRISTIAN. You seem confused. You are requested to read up on the History of the Modern Day Calendar.
      Hope you have read John 3:16 because you are still going on about some “Mercy” in your zeal to prove me wrong.

  4. Please ponder these verses of Allah;

    1. They have taken their rabbis and their monks as gods beside Allah, 12 and also (they have taken) Masih the son of Maryam (as god). And they were not commanded but to worship only One God. There is no god but He. Pure is He from what they associate with Him. QS 9;29-31.

    2. O humankind,) follow what has been sent down to you ( Taurat, Zabur,Unjil and Al Quran ) from your Lord, and do not follow any masters (scholar,Imam ) )other than Him. Little you heed to advice! QS 7;3.

    3…Then guard yourselves against a day when one soul shall not avail another nor shall intercession be accepted for her, nor shall compensation be taken from her nor shall anyone be helped (from outside). QS 2:(48)


    1. Do not trust in human leaders; no human being can save you. When they die,they return to the dust; on that day all their plans come to the end.Psalm 146:3

    2. There is no one in this earth who does what is right all the time and never makes a mistake.Ecc.7:20

    3. It is better to trust in God,( His Books ) than depend on man.It is better to trust in God,than depend on human leaders.Psalm 118:8.

    From my observation years and years, Most Muslim Scholars have been falling to the biggest sin, Srirk. They believe no in God, but also they follow their Scholar Muslim, Bukhari, Hurairah etc.
    They believe 100 percent what scholar Muslim, Bukhari wrote in his book of Hadits.

    So consequence of believing Scholar Muslim and Bukhari go astray and fall into sinful Syirk.

    No wonder, what we see know in majority Muslim countries are ; religious conflict never end, and poverty. Million innocent people, children and women already have been suffering, homeless and died. This is human tragedy, catastrophe in 21st Century.


    The root of religious conflict, poverty and kill innocent people, blasphemy, apostasy, gay and lesbian because of believing in scholars than Allah alone.

    “If you do love Allah, follow me: Allah will love you and forgive you your sins; for Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” QS 3:31.

    Ask forgiveness from your Lord; for He is Oft-Forgiving; (10) “`He will send rain to you in abundance; (11) “`Give you increase in wealth and sons; and bestow on you Gardens and bestow on you rivers (of flowing water). (12) QS 71;10-12,

    May Allah give the guidance of the right path to King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia and all spiritual and political leaders in Middle East, and ask Allah for forgiveness. Then may Allah give them His grace, love and mercy.

    For You from My Heart.
    All those who read shall pass on my words to others and those to others again; O Allah,
    be my witness, that I have conveyed your message to your people.

    With all my love
    Wassalamu’alaikum wrwb

  5. If the Deobandis are against the wearing of perfumes, are they not familiar with the saying credited to Muhammad that he had a passion for women and perfumes?

    Since it is now established from the posts above that the Deobandis, with some others, issue ‘stupid fatwas’, should their cleric be regarded as ‘renowned’ or ‘notorious’?

  6. Dear Ashok Saldanha, count back from today, 2014 years and where will you land? Very close to the birth time of Jesus a.s.
    I am relying on the verse in chapter 19 of the Quran which states that Allah gave news to Mary in the words: ” Like that says your Lord. That is easy for me. And that We make him (i.e. Jesus) a sign for the mankind and mercy from Us and It was a decreed matter.”
    Mercy means Mercy for mankind and sign means sign from Allah for mankind (Ayatullah li annaas). That is something memorable.
    I cannot understand why you are denying the connection of the International calendar with the birth of Jesus Christ. Kindly, link the calendar with any other event. The present day universal Calendar is a proof of truth of Prophet Jesus a.s. and the Quran.
    It is not Julian Calendar. Calendar was drifting (shifting)so Pope Gregory XIII only made some corrections in the Calendar. Pope added 10 days into the Calendar. It is now a civil calendar, that means Christian calendar is the civil universal calendar.

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