TV One Debate: Controversy over fate of the Ahmadiyya

TV One Debate: Controversy over fate of the Ahmadiyya

English Summary by : By: Aftab Lubis

 

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Editors Note:

Following is the English summary of the video above prepared by one of our
reader Mr Aftab Lubis. We are very grateful to Mr Lubis for preparing this 
comprehensive summary for our readers.
Word of thanks also to Mr Abdul Latif, a regular commentator on the Muslim
 Times for facilitating the translation.


 
Background:
Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono receives a religious 
tolerance award in May 2013.The debate is about whether religious 
tolerance has really been practiced in the country considering that there 
are still some oppressive attacks towards minorities including 
Ahmadiyya Jamaat.


Panelists: 
Panelists are Indonesian National Jamaat Public Affair Zafarullah 
Pontoh sahib and an Indonesian Religious Affair officer.
 

Debate:
Moderator initially contradicts the fact that the President receives
an award while attacks toward Ahmadiyya Jamaat are still going on. 
The officer replies that back in 2010 Government offers 3 options to 
the Jamaat.
 

First is to stop any Promised Messiah AS' teaching propagation if Jamaat
 considers themselves as Muslims.


Second option is to call themselves something else beside Muslims.


Third is to totally banned the Jamaat.


After negotiation between Government and Indonesian Jamaat, a decree was 
issued. The decree is to ban Jamaat in propagating Promised Messiah AS' 
teaching and there are punitive consequences towards those who attack Jamaat.
 

The officer then says so far Jamaat has not been fully obeying the decree. 
Promised Messiah AS' teaching is still being used as guidance in Jamaat 
activities. Government, through Indonesian Ulama Majlis, still believes 
that Tadzkirah is Jamaat’s Holy book.
 

Public Affair secretary replies back that Jamaat’s Holy book is Al-Quran
 ul Karim. Tadzkirah is the Promised Messiah AS' writing where there are
 some references taken from Al-Quran ul Karim.


He also reaffirms that Jamaat’s concept of Khattman Nabiyin does not 
close the door of prophethood after the Holy Prophet Muhammad SAW.
[The recording ends]
 

7 replies

  1. It’s double Dutch-Indnesia was under Dutch while Hadhrat Maulana Rehmatullah Ali was preaching Ahmadiyyat there. All Ahmadiyya missionaries played a significant role in the struggle for independence which was duly recorded and appreciated by the late president Sokarno of Indonesia.I have had the PRIVILEDGE of meeting Maulana Rehmatullah Ali and listening from him many tales in 1950’s in Lahore.It would be very useful if this TV Video is presented in English so that people around the Globe could understand it.

  2. There seem to be 3 parts to this TV debate, the one posted here is only the first part. However, the arguments are rather repetitive. consequently it would be nice to have a summary of the debate, a ‘word-by-word’ translation is not really essential.

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