Pig Head soaked in Blood thrown at Ahmadiyya Mosque Site in Germany!

Source: Daily Bild via Adeel of Germany.

On Thursday, 14.11.2013 at about 11.00 clocks in the night fire rages for Georg Schumann road. Where is soon to be the first German Central mosque with minarets, The Ahmadiyya Muslim community Germany plans on the site in Gohlis to build a mosque with two minarets.  A preliminary construction is available. Since the announcement of the plans there are always protests from supporters and opponents.

As the rescuers arrive on site, however, offers them a creepy scenario: „Unknown gunmen had five wooden stakes driven into the ground, each on a severed pig’s head impaled,” said police spokesman Uwe Voigt. On the floor is gallons of red liquid – probably pig’s blood – dumped. The police suspect a xenophobic background. The state security has taken the investigation. ”

Note by Editor:  Original news in German.  Click HERE for original news:

SPD-Bundesparteitag

Note by the Editor:  According to the largest newspapr (FAZ) of Germany the SPD (Social Democrats) Chief of Germany Mr Sigmar Gabriel visited the Ahmadiyya Mosque plot in Leipzig.  He condemned the act of extremist and demanded the respect for religious freedom. Original news is in German and can be read at LINK.

15 replies

  1. poor silly guys … wasting their money … let them eat the pigs if they like, not waste them …

    Anyway, we do not worry. Inshallah we will have a nice mosque in Leipzig. And like any other place the neighbors will be happy in the future.

  2. Zubair Khan,
    But you are not bothered about the Christians who are killed and now face extinction in the Middle East. Why the double standard? In Leipzig, it is a pig’s head thrown into the grounds of the proposed mosque. But in the Middle East human beings are the victims. Which should invoke more sympathy?

    • Come on, Namelee. How do you come to the conclusion that our brother Zubair Khan is not bothered about Christians killed in the Middle East? We (and I am sure brother Zubair Khan too) are against all forms of murder, terrorism, killing, persecution of innocents, INCLUDING CHRISTIANS IN THE MIDDLE EAST!!!!

  3. @Namelee.
    1. Br Rafiq thanks for the truth.
    2. Dear Namelee. Let you have the courage to come with your actual name as truth should not fear.
    Ahmadiyya is the real and true face of Islam. Its 123 years record supports this view point. Ahmadiyya can throw a challenge, no community member ever invloved in any untoward act. So the community members with such clean record deserve to protest such acts. What other Muslim groups are doing it is not true Islam and Ahmadiyya strongly condemns it as indicated by Br Rafiq.

  4. Rafiq A. Tschannen,
    Even though I had not come to this blog at that time, may I know if ‘Br Zubair Khan’ wrote on the Pakistani church bombing as he has done on the pig’s head stuff!
    Rafiq, Muslims stream endlessly to the West looking for better opportunities, yet they are not said to be “left out in the cold” in the countries harboring them.Example is the boasting that a gigantic mosque will soon be built in Leipzig. Why then should somebody living in her/his country be “left out in the cold” simply because of his/her faith?.
    If, as it is, the majority of Muslims accept violence or acquiesce to it, then they are the ones practicing the “real islam” but not you the tiny minority. It is from what the majority do that the conclusion would be made about the whole.

  5. Zubair Khan,
    The name I choose for myself on this site is very private and it does not interfere or impede our ability to interact. So, let it not be a problem.
    I strongly doubt that Ahmadiyya is the true face of islam. It is just 123 years old. What were the people before Ghulam Ahmad practicing?
    Unfortunately, the vast majority of muhammadans do not regard the Ahmadis as being part of the faith.
    The terrorists, who bomb and kill, quote quranic and hadith references to justify their actions. Reading the quran, hadiths and sira, one cannot help but agree with them as being the real practitioners of muhammadanism.
    It will be interesting if what you say is true. But it should also not be forgotten that the quran forbids the ‘believers’ from befriending the Jews and Christians because “they are friends to each other”.

  6. JOENABILS
    @ Namelee
    Namelee,perhaps you want to change the name of Islam to something else because of shear prejudice,why not Islam but this old hatred orientalist cliched name, for your information it is the only religion in the world which has it name mentioned in its holy book,and not a Nikkie!oh do not be worried about the fact that the rest of the Muslim umma have checked out Ahmadiyya from the fold of Islam based on their own standard and not that of God or His Prophet.Don’t the rest and other sects of Christendom treat the Jehovah Witnesses sect with contempt and disdain because they don’t believe in trinity,again I think you are suffering from selective and historic amnesia,if you allude to the fact that what the so called Muslim groups perpetuate in the name of religion is sanctioned and endorsed by Islam ipso-facto the crusade and the Spanish inquisition is hall mark representation of Christianity,but what of Hitler,was he a Muslim when he incinerated 6000000 Jews for what crime? with regards to the Quranic verse you quoted why don’t you put it in the proper contest if you are not being mischievous.

  7. Sarquah Nabil Jnr,
    Changing the name because of what prejudice? I didn’t write your revered books. Somebody had earlier objected to my reference to ‘muhammadanism’. But I pointed out that in the hadiths Muhammad himself and Aisha had used the phrase “THE FOLLOWERS OF MUHAMMAD”. What then is prejudice if I use a term which is derived from what the founder of the religion himself had coined?
    It requires some convincing that a sect which came about 1,200 years after the religion was founded would be its flag bearer being so remote from the origin of the faith. The rest of the Christian world may not agree with the Jehovah’s Witnesses but there is no country where they have been banned or targeted for killing. As for the crusades, history records that they were belated response to half a millennium of muhammadan genocide on the Christians of the Holy Land. They were defensive, not offensive. If you want to talk about them, please feel free to do so. The inquisitions lasted about 300 years and came to an end. Muhammadan terrorism is on-going. Where is the basis for comparison?
    Hitler is an interesting issue. While professing to be a Christian, he had nothing but utter disdain for the faith which he described as “meek and flabby”. But had much affection for “the muhammadan religion that opens the gates of the seventh heaven to the warrior”. In your religion such a character would have been declared as an apostate with a fatwa on his head. Salman Rushdie did not go as far as that and has been in hiding for decades now even after apologizing.
    You have not helped matters by not placing the quranic verse in what you consider to be its proper context. But it says something like “O BELIEVERS DO NOT TAKE THE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS AS YOUR FRIENDS; THEY ARE FRIENDS TO EACH OTHER”. Both have been variously described as ‘infidels’ and ‘unbelievers’. The same quran goes on to say that “AN UNBELIEVER IS THE FILTHIEST THING IN THE SIGHT OF ALLAH”. As for the Jews, they have not ceased being the ‘descendants of apes and swine’.
    I do appreciate all the profession of moving in a different direction made by the Ahmadis. But I think they have an insurmountable hurdle in the quran.
    From previous experiences, I will not be surprised if this rebuttal does not see the light of day. Excluding contrary views is confirmation of the old order. It does not indicate a move in a new direction. Should this comment not be posted, it will be fair to remove the one it is in response to. That way, it will not give the wrong impression that the comment went unanswered.

    • Yes, Namelee. I will stop approving your comments in the future. We politely pointed out to you that Islam is the name of our religion. We did not make a God out of our Prophet and that is why the name of our religion does not bear his name. But you do not want to change. – All your objections to Islam – as you like to see it – are on the wrong web-page. You should not discuss with members of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, whose motto is ‘Love For All and Hatred for None’. You may find a ‘Jihadist webpage’. They might share some of what you think are Islamic views. – I wonder what the Libyans think now who thought the Americans were their friends? Or the very few Iraqis who were asking / approving US intervention?

  8. namelee is unnecessarily trying to create problems. he has come down to lying about important facts of History. He is trying to twist the good living in holy land under the Muslim rule. It is balatant lie to say that there was any genocide in holy land.
    namelee is trying to run away from Hitler too, trying to disown him. Namelee is intentionally writing disturbing (inciting) posts to spoil the show. Ahmadis are calling every one to God Almighty. namelede wants to involve Ahmadis into useless filthy debate so that we give bad reply to expose the faults of Christians, while we do not know if namelee is a Christian.

    Now, I present the right translation of the verse presented by namelee. It is true that some Muslims have written : “O BELIEVERS DO NOT TAKE THE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS AS YOUR FRIENDS; THEY ARE FRIENDS TO EACH OTHER”.

    But that is not the right translation of the verse. The right translation is “O BELIEVERS DO NOT TAKE THE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS AS YOUR allies (Guardians); THEY ARE allies of EACH OTHER”.

    That is the exact translation of the verse. The Arabic word used is “wali” or its plural “Auliaa”.
    The right meaning of that word is supporter, guardian or ally. Friend is not the right meaning even though it can be a derived meaning. It may convey the meaning of friendship.
    In Arabic, For Friend is the word “Khaleel”, not “Wali”.

    Word Wali is used for the the caretaker or father of the bride during marriage. That father is not the friend of the bride.
    namelee has no case against Islam. namelee is taking side with the terrorists, is supporting them too just to blame Islam. And denying the genicide that took place in Spain during Inquisition.
    namelee is trying to accuse and blame in the wrong manner, may even be ready to become abusive.

    My attack here is not on any Christian or Hindu or Lahori. They are all decent, sensible people. My attack here is only on namelee for his bad approach, bad posting. He is already trying to accuse the moderators in advance.

  9. Rafiq,
    Two issues please:
    1. I have seen reference to Ahmadiyya quran Punjabi translation flying off the shelves. Do the Ahmadis have a different quran from the Uthmanic recension used by the rest?
    2. I drew your attention to what Baroness Warsi said yesterday about the disappearing Christian communities of the Middle East. It has not yet been reported by TMT. But Oprah’s statement on racism has hit TMT’s headline for the second day running now. Why the slant or lack of interest?

  10. @Namelee

    Ahmadiyya has same Quran as other Muslim have. Ahmadiyya only differs in interpretation of few verses. In Quran itself stated the actual knowledge of Quran is revealed only to those who are very close to God due to piety and spirituality. Since founder of Ahmadiyya claimed to be the Imam Mahdi and Messiah as such can rightly claim to have interpreted the verses of Quran in right direction. Interpretation of Jihad, death of Jesus Christ etc are just two examples.

    Repeatedly your attention has been drawn that Ahmadiyya is not responsible what other Muslim groups are doing. According to Ahamdiyya belief, Imam Mahdi and Messiah is HAKAM and ADDAL and what ever He expresses will be the correct Islamic teachings. Since other Muslim groups have declined this Imam sent by God as such now what ever acts other Muslim perform can not be termed according to Islamic teachings. As explained earlier please restrict yourself to Ahamdiyya Islam and if you have any objection on Ahmadiyya facet of Islam do mention.

  11. Ghulam Sarwar,
    I will start with sura 5(The Table)and reproduce from three different versions of the quran the verse both of us have quoted so that the reader will determine who is lying.
    5:55 “O BELIEVERS, TAKE NOT THE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS AS FRIENDS; THEY ARE FRIENDS OF EACH OTHER. WHOSO OF YOU TAKES THEM AS FRIENDS IS ONE OF THEM. GOD GUIDES NOT THE PEOPLE OF THE EVILDOERS”.(Arberry’s version page 108)
    5:49 “BELIEVERS, TAKE NEITHER JEWS NOR CHRISTIANS FOR YOUR FRIENDS AND PROTECTORS. THEY ARE FRIENDS AND PROTECTORS OF ONE ANOTHER. WHOEVER OF YOU SEEKS THEIR FRIENDSHIP AND SUPPORTS THEM SHALL BECOME ONE OF THEIR NUMBER. ALLAH DOES NOT GUIDE THE WRONG DOERS”.(Mahmoud Y. Yazid’s version as approved by the Supreme Sunni and Shii Councils of the Republic of Lebanon, page 80).
    5 “O BELIEVERS! TAKE NOT THE JEWS OR CHRISTIANS AS FRIENDS. THEY ARE BUT ONE ANOTHER’S FRIENDS. IF ANY OF YOU TAKETH THEM FOR HIS FRIENDS, HE SURELY IS ONE OF THEM! GOD WILL NOT GUIDE THE EVIL DOERS”.(John Meadows Rodwell’s version, online edition page 1828).
    By this order allah warns against befriending the Jews and Christians because anyone who does that is an evildoer like the two groups.
    You admitted that the proper interpretation is not to be the allies of those two groups according to your expertise in Arabic. What is the difference? If the writers of the other versions are guilty of poor interpretation, the same cannot be said of Yazid and the two councils which approved his work. They are Arabs or, at least, well versed in Arabic.
    As I said earlier, for you to be convincing in your profession of friendship with the “evildoers” you must first overcome the enormous hurdles placed on the way by the quran. Without that, whatever you think you are doing is pure deceit.
    What took the Muslims out of Mecca and Medina to the Holy Land in the first place? It was the quest for territorial expansion and booty. What is benevolent in conquest and occupation, especially one that lasted almost 500 years?

  12. namelee, I did not accuse you of lying about the translation of the verses. I accused you of lying and twisting well known facts of history. I do not know what you are supporting, the Torah or the Bible or the Geeta. Inform me about your faith before attacking Islam.

    I had explained that friendship can become indirect (derived) meaning in those verses. But it is not the correct meaning. I had given the Arabic word for friend as “khaleel”.
    Now again you are twisting the facts of history. Who attacked who in years 630 A.D?. It was the Roman Emperor and his coteries (Roman Governor in Seria) who tried to pick up fight against the very weak Muslims.
    Muslims never attacked any one. The Romans (and later Iranians) amassed their armies against Muslims. So the fight started. When it started, it had to go to its final end i.e. the defeat of the Roman empire as well defeat of the Persian empire.

    Since Ahmadis are no more active politically, so your accusation is again misdirected towards Ahmadis.
    There is no use accusing the Muslims for that defeat fo the Romans. That is what I call lying about the facts of history.

    About the friendship verses, you may ask any Arab if the word Wali means a friend. It does not.
    I was sorry about using the word “attack” for you. I should have said “My complaints about you.” There is no attack.

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