Source: debate.org | Asked by: IslamAhmadiyya
#1: The Original Islam, Modernized:
Ahmadis consider themselves to be part of the universal religion of Islam. They believe that a man, by the name of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as), claimed to be the Promised Reformer, as well as the metaphorical second coming of Jesus (as), that was prophesied to appear in the Latter Days, and also, the Imam Mahdi, that the Muslims await for.
Numbering in the 10s of millions, spanning across over 200 countries, the Ahmadi Muslims are persecuted all over the globe, most notably in the middle east and east Asia. The height of the persecution lies in Pakistan, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, and nearby countries. In Pakistan, they are banned by law to consider themselves Muslims, in S.A. They are banned to perform the Hajj, a yearly pilgrimage part of the Islamic faith.
Response: Sorry, friend. No, they are not!
The Ahmadiyya are most certainly an Islamic group in the Western understanding of what it means to be Islamic. But there is a difference between orthodoxy and heresy. This sect would fall under the latter under the orthodox position of Islam. The thing is, Muhammad was a genius, and he made it impossible to transgress upon his teachings, to innovate or change the Islam he has already established. This is exactly what the Ahmadiyya do. Islam is Islam, the Qur’an or direct word of God, the Sunnah or ways and practices of Muhammad, the understanding of the Qur’an and Sunnah when necessary by the Salaf or the first three generations of Muslims, and then the scholars who have studied all three sources. Ahmadiyya represents a very large innovation in mainstream Islam, which automatically makes it a heresy.
#2: Ahmadis claim they are the original Muslims that follow the original teachings of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (saw), and that… join the debate @ debate.org
Categories: Ahmadiyyat: True Islam, Europe, Islam
I am an ahmadi Muslim by Allah’s grace, and I just want to mention some facts as I understand it.
Anybody who says that he is a Muslim is indeed a Muslim for the purpose of the law. So said the Holy Prophet (PBUH) when he ordered his scribe to write the names of those calling themselves Muslims for the census.
Anybody who recites the Kalima, turns towards Mecca for Salaat and eat of what is lawful is also a Muslim.
The question of the point of view of the Ahmadi Muslim v/s the Non-Ahmadi Muslims, is regarding the fulfillment of the prophecy regarding the coming of the Messiah. The Ahmadi Muslims believe that the prophecy has been fulfilled in the person of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani (as), while most non-Ahmadi Muslims believe that the said prophecy is yet to be fulfilled.
It is actually a matter of “has been” and “will be”
It is a fact that the vast majority of the Muslims are waiting for the physical descent of Prophet Jesus (as) from the skies. They believe that he will live for about 40 years preaching Islam and then he will pass away finally. Such an idea has the following implications:
1) The majority of Muslims believe that Jesus will be the only prophet who will LIVE last and Die LAST on this earth.
2) That is, based on birth Hazrat Mohammad (PBUH) will be the LAST prophet, but based on death, Hazrat Jesus will be the LAST prophet.
3) This idea also implies that God must have re-revealed the Holy Quran to Hazrat Jesus long afer the Quran was revealed to the Holy Prophet (PBUH).
On the other hand many shia Muslims believe that the the Imam Mahdi is in a secret cave and will appear when the time is ripe.
The question is : What will be the status of the people who will reject Jesus and/or the Imam Mahdi when they appear in the future? Can these people be called Muslims? Please let me know.
Most definitely Ahmadiyya is Islam and no one can have the right of what ones belief especially when one declare and say the 2 kalimah syahadah of “lailahailallah muhammadur rasullullah”. It is also noted that saying by Muhammad (saw) narrated, in short, “…..there is time where uleamas are the worst creatures living on earth where they will issue fitnas (allegation/fatwas) and all of them will come back to them….”. So the declaration of non-Muslim of the Ahmadiyya sect is actually through the work of uelamas in reality in gaining worldly monetary. It is apparent that most uleamas do not truly studied and understand what being revealed in al-Quran and narrated in Hadith but always come to solutions via “this is what we think right” without really make a thorough study. This is the sad part of uelamas as they never learned from past mistakes nor did they correct the wrong done by the previous uelamas as this will lead to more factions amongst them. Allah swt knows better who is in the right and on the wrong, let Allah swt decides not human, uelamas, organizations, government etc. If there is any dispute why not pray to Allah swt and get His guidance and settle the issues where so acute e.g. in declaring non-Muslim, be made through muzakarah and istikharah and Allah swt decides who is the impostor or the wrong and the right.