Source: BBC News
A suicide bomb and gun attack on a Methodist church in Pakistan has killed at least eight people, officials say.
Militants stormed the church, which was packed with worshippers at the time, in the city of Quetta, some 65km (40 miles) from the Afghan border.
The Islamic State group has said it carried out the attack.
Two suicide bombers were stopped at the entrance to the church, Sarfraz Bugti, the Balochistan region’s home minister, said.
Categories: Asia, Church, Pakistan, Terrorism, The Muslim Times
The world is bot getting better but getting worse and worse— more innocent Chistian died by the extremist Muslim. There are clerics say: it has nothing to do with Islam. Why they said that, I think the clerics feel ashamed with their religion, it is better liethan admit it. How dangerous will be if clerics never tell the truth.
Young educated Muslims have to tell the truth always, if it is wrong say wrong! Allah know every thing.
The truth is these murder Muslim follow the sunnah, sahih Muslim-Bukhari ( I believe these hadith are false).
PROPHET MUHAMMAD PBUH COMMANDMENT!
1.Sahih Hadith: those who kill infidel ( khafir) will enter Paradise. ( Hinor killing)
2. Sahih Muslim 33—”I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah”
3. Sahih Muslim 4366—“ I will expel the Jews and Christian from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim”
How dangerous these Hadith are? Thousand innocent people have died, Do we keep silence with these Hadith?
If Clerics do not REJECT these Hadith publicly, actually they agree with the extremist idelogy.
Hopefully Ahmadiyyah reject all violent Hadith publicly in order all Muslim know it.
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The extremist clerics have been teaching children from young age. Watch this video. Very very sad, pity and embarrassing.
https://youtu.be/AjUU0Y91DXA
It is a sad day. There is no excuse for any terrorist to do any act of terrorism. I categorically reject any statement that is against “La Iqra fid Deen! (there is no compulsion in faith) Quran Verse 2:256
I must say that any one practicing violence or killing or spreading terror is not practicing Islam in any manner. They do not display any side or any part or Islam what so ever. Islam says killing of one human is killing of all of humanity than how can a Hadith tell them to kill. Islam is peace and love and compassion and anyone doing anything else is hijacking islam’s Name to do their own dirty biding.
Hopefully you came to understand that what I say here many times that Islamic teaching has been contaminated with the teaching of idol ( hadith) where most Muslim believe that Hadith is the second sourse of zislamic teaching.
The book of Hadith Sahih Muslim, Bukhari etc contain many false hadith. Why Muslim still believe in the book of Hadith, those who believe in Hadith, they are syrick.Most Muslim have turn away from believe in God alone to believe in idol. Do you agree ?
May God guide Muslim to the right path of Islam
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A very sad incident.
According to the constitution, every citizen of Pakistan, even if they belong to a minority have equal rights. But the government fails to protect the basic human rights of minorities .It is one of the reason why Peace is still not possible in Pakistan
All depand on the ruler. If the ruler is a extremist Muslim, the ruler will follow the Syariah or Al Quran and Hadith. They do not care of Constituion of Pakistan and Human right.
Al Quran say: those who do not believe in Allah is infidel or khafir, kill them. Q. 9:5, Q.9:29
Read more detail: Muslim who follow these VERSES of God PART B, will become extremist and terrorist:
http://ilovemodrenislam.blogspot.com/2017/09/extremist-leader-is-dangerous-for.html?m=1
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Brother Riffat Adnan, please read the context of this verse, “God decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul _ unliss for corruption in the land – it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. Indeed Jews, throughout the land, were transgressors.Q 5:32. This verse addressed Bani Israel, not Muslims.
Brother Anonymous you wrote, “every citizen of Pakistan, even if they belong to a minority have equal rights” This is not true. Non-Muslims do not have equal right in Pakistan Constitution.In Pakistan. All Non-Muslims are denied basic human rights in Pakistan. The murderous attacks on innocent Christians and Hindus are common.
Brother Somi Tempo Verse 9:5 and 9:29 are in Quran. Nobody can change Quran. Please let Some Muslim explain these verses for correct understanding in spiritual context.
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@ Khalid—wrote—Brother Riffat Adnan, please read the context of this verse, “God decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul _ unliss for corruption in the land – it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. Indeed Jews, throughout the land, were transgressors.Q 5:32. This verse addressed Bani Israel, not Muslims.===
In this case, I dont agree with you. Yes that verse addressed Bany Israel— as a example for our prophet Muhammad’s followers. What ever God sent to Prophet is a law to Muslim. God forbid Jews, Christian and Muslim to kill innocent people. It does not make sense if verse addressed Bani Israel. I think my interpretation is a true one.
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Brother Somi Tempo_
You mean to say as verse Q 5:32. is for everyone, so are Q.9:5, Q.9:29 for everyone. Doesn’t it matter who is addressed by God in these verses?
@ Khalid. —- why does Allah tell it in Al Quran? If it is not a law for Muslim? It does not make sense at all. Yes Allah forbid Muslim to kill innocent people. It is a clear law. No doubt at all.
I think Q.9:5, 9:29 are fabricated by the ancient clerics who compiled al Quran. May be??
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Islam’s basic teachings are peace, love forgiveness and hormony.
Nowhere in the Holy Quran it is written to kill innocent people. If they are doing it in the name of Islam, it is just because they don’t know the real teachings of Islam..
@ Nadia, let me show to you that there is a commandment from Allah and our prophet to kill innocent people ( khafir or invidel)
Read here you can find some verses : Q.9:5, Q.9:29 etc
http://ilovemodrenislam.blogspot.com/2016/04/what-is-wrong-with-extremist-muslim.html?m=1
After you read, give your opinion.
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Brother Somi Tempo please read verse Q 5:32. “God decreed upon the Children of Israel — but indeed many of them, even after that— were transgressors. God clearly states “God decreed upon the Children of Israel, even then they were transgressors.
I respectfully read it as it says in Quran.
Mohtram, you think Q.9:5, 9:29 are fabricated verses.We Muslims believe that Quran is not fabricated like Bible.
I request Someone to explain these verses( Q.9:5, 9:29 ) for the correct understanding of Islam.
@Brother Khalid please pay attention to this verse!
God say in Al Quran:
And such are the Parables We set forth for mankind, but only those understand them who have Knowledge. Q.29; (43).
There are many parable verses in Al Quran, as lesson for Prophet Muhammad pbuh. If it is not a lesson for Muslim, Allah do not need to tell to our Prophet.
Regarding Q.9:5, 9:29.
We believe that our prophet has excellent charecter as role model for mankind.
If we see some violent verses such above, is against our prophet’s charecter, such as: love, forgiveness, kindness, compasion, generousity. No compulsion, retaliate bad with good,
Do you believe that our prophet impose non Islam ( Christion, Jews) to pay Jizyaa until they subdue
( discriminating act)
Do you believe that our prophet was cruel, harsh and hostile to Christian and Jews?
Do you believe that those verses for purpose of defence?
As we know that if Government make a law, has to be clear, to avoid misinterpretation. If a law is not clear meaning, it will be drawn from public for correction. Right?
Muslim who follow these verses will become the extremist like ISIS, Taliban, Al Qaida etc.
These verses are very dangerous as we see this world today. Million innocent people have been victims caused of these verses.
Maybe maybe, those clerics who compiled these verses ( Al Quran) made some mistakes, as human can make mistake. No ine is perfect.
Another reason is our prophet never saw this Quran. If he saw it, he would correct it forsure.
Maybe I am wrong, any one has another thought?
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Read more detail here!
http://ilovemodrenislam.blogspot.com/2016/04/what-is-wrong-with-extremist-muslim.html?m=1
Islam is a religion of peace.It does not teach people to kill innocent people.
The people who try to prove that Quran says to kill people without any reason they’re dishonest and try to hide Quanic real teachings by twisting Quranic words and also by misinterpretations of Quran.
REMEMBER Reality can’t be hidden
Please try to read these verses from al Quran.
So, when the sacred months expire, kill the Mushriks wherever you find them, and catch them and besiege them and sit in ambush for them everywhere. Q.9:5
Fight those People of the Book who do not believe in Allah, nor in the Last Day, 8 and do not take as unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have declared as unlawful, and do not profess the Faith of Truth; (fight them) until they pay jizyah with their own hands while they are subdued. Q. 9:29.
PROPHET MUHAMMAD PBUH COMMANDMENT!
Sahih Muslim 33—”I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah”
Please interprete these verses above. The extremist Muslim ( ISIS) use these verses to kill innocent people.
How do you interprete it, we want to know, please!
Hopefully right interpretation.
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You must understand that versus must be interpreted in the context in which they were revealed. You cannot just take a random verse from the Quran and say that extremist Muslims use these versus to kill innocent people. This is NOT what Islam is! Before making assumptions, it is crucial to understand what the verse ACTUALLY means. Again, Islam is all about peace.
As long as Clerics cannot solve the root of problem , kiling innocent people will not stop,
The root of problem is the violent verses and violent hadith which is the extremist Muslim use this orders or commandment from God and Prophet to kill innocent people ( infidel or blasphemer etc).
Most clerics including Ahmadiyya say that Islam is a religion of peace but on the ground there is no peace.
When we ask the extremist Clerics if we are good Muslim have to obey the commandment of God and the Sunnah namely kill infidel, musrykun, hypocrites gay lesbian etc
Do you think our prophet ordered to kill innocent prople?
WHAT CONTEX THIS VERSE?
Fight those People of the Book who do not believe in Allah, nor in the Last Day, 8 and do not take as unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have declared as unlawful, and do not profess the Faith of Truth; (fight / kill them) until they pay jizyah with their own hands while they are subdued. Q. 9:29.
It seems to me that it is not the contex of war. Was our prophet so harsh and cruel to enemy? Kill them until they pay JIZYAA with their own hands while they are subdued??
Do you not agree to reform all violent verses and ancient laws ? To modrenize Islamic laws??
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I believe that no one can improve or change Quran, even Prophet Muhammad (saw). Quran is the word of God. I do not believe that some Clark put these verses in Quran (Q.9:5, 9:29).I request Someone to explain these verses( Q.9:5, 9:29 ) for the correct understanding of Islam.
Lovr for all Hatred for none.
@ Khalid
Maybe, maybe, those clerics who compiled these verses ( Al Quran) had made some mistakes, as human being can make mistake. No one is perfect.
Can you give me your reason that those who compiled all God’s verses ( Al Quran) cannot make a mistake? Whereas they were human being just like us. Also our prophet Muhammad who received all verses from Allah never saw and read this Al Quran what we have today.
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Allah has promised to keep the Quran safe. There is no doubt in it.
It is my belief that there is no charge in Quran. No one could change Quran including Prophet Muhammad (saw). God has promised Quran’s protection.
Brother Somi Tempo has valid question.I request Someone to explain these verses( Q.9:5, 9:29 ) for the correct understanding of Islam.
Love for all Hatred for none.
I am sorry to tell you that you still want to implement the ancient Islamic law: such as : slavery, beheading, flogging, amputation at front of public as ISIS and Taliban did.
I cannot help you anymore with new interpretation.
Renate wrote:
===We need more progressive Muslims like Majid Nawaz. I listen to his regular radio programmes, and am always impressed by his knowledge and modern outlook on religion and other matters.+==
Zia wrote:
The Quranic examples of punishments were in the context of the 7th century Arabia and should be adjusted to modern needs, context and resources.==
Dr Zia. H. Khan already admited that Islam should be adjusted according to the time, condition and contex in era 21th century.
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Brother Somi Tempo, you may feel sorry but you must understand that no one can change Quran, Neither Prophet Muhammad (saw) nor you. It is also true that these verses ( Q.9:5, 9:29 ) are not added by anyone.We do not need your help to remove these verses from Quran. These verses are truly in Quran and will stay in Quran.
It is also true that Prophet Muhammad (saw) had the excellent character. He was a role model for mankind. He was an icon of love, compassion, forgiveness, and generosity. He also taught us to Repel evil with goodness, Q41:34
We got to understand “time and space”.It is clear to me that verses Q.9:5 & 9:29 are not for today. Nowhere Quran states that these verses are for the 20th century.The context of these verses is not present time, so there is no reason to flash these verses today, again and again.
I hope brother Somi Tempo understands this point and stops flashing these verses again and again. It will be a disservice to Islam to flash these verses today.It is like Flashing, Bring men and women to gates, to stone till they die. Deuteronomy 17.Or Numbers 31, where God commands the Israelites to attack and kill all men, all married women and all male children but to keep virgin females as the spoils of war and distribute them among the soldiers. Or luke 19:27 where Jesus pbuh asked to bring those who did not want Jesus pbuh to reign over them, to slaughter.
All of these verses are in our scriptures and will stay in our scriptures. Let’s not waste our time to on it, these verses are not for the 20th century.
Love for all Hatred for none.
Ahmadi Muslims reject all kind of terrorism and killings. True Islam rejects violent jihad.
Please visit https://www.trueislam.com/home/ for more detal.
Does Somi not see that in Palestine and Yemen Muslims are not the only guilty party? Yes, in Yemen Muslims should not kill Muslims, but the US arms exporters in the meantime are laughing their head off …
It is very sad and painful act. We need to come forward and try our best to bring in peace and harmony in this world. May God be there helper and protector.
Brother Somi Tempo wrote:
Muslim need a new approach to achieve peace, otherwise no peace.
Khalifa of Islam took a Giant step forward. Please visit https://www.trueislam.com/home/ for more detail. Brother why did you miss it and did not acknowledge it. He did not leave any hole in there.Peace loving people should at least acknowledge this gigantic step towards world peace.
Love for all Hatred for none.
This is not what Islam is. Nowhere in the Quran says that you should kill innocent people. You have to realize what the verse actually means, and should not just take random verses from the Quran and put your own words in it.
Atia—- please explan it clearly these verses.
So, when the sacred months expire, kill the Mushriks wherever you find them, and catch them and besiege them and sit in ambush for them everywhere. Q.9:5
Fight those People of the Book who do not believe in Allah, nor in the Last Day, 8 and do not take as unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have declared as unlawful, and do not profess the Faith of Truth; (fight them) until they pay jizyah with their own hands while they are subdued. Q. 9:29.
We know charecter if our prophet were lovely, kind, forgive, and generous.
But above verses were cruel, harsh and force.
Witch one is wrong? Our prophet or verses?
Try to think honestly!
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