Ahmadis interpret about the existence of a prophet after Prophet Muhammad. The interpretation is contrary to the interpretation of Sibi Muslims who form the majority of Muslims in Indonesia. This is why the assembly labeled Ahamadiyah heretical.
And it is reinforced with dikelaurkannya Joint Decree (SKB) three ministers who reinforce it.
Researchers said the different interpretation should not cause violence. Even Al Quraan provides the flexibility to think.
“The difference in interpretation should be resolved in the scientific realm and study, so no need to reconcile differences in interpretation stretcher into horizontal conflict. The government should not interfere too much interpretation someone to faith, “said Pitoyo while becoming one of the speakers in a focus group discussion with the theme” Ahmadiyya In Perspective Aqeedah, Sharia, and Nationality “.
The event was organized by the Southeast Asian Centre for Islamic Studies / Institute of Southeast Asian Islam (ISAIs) UIN Sunan Kalijaga Yogyakarta, Thursday (11/27/2014).
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Muhammad s.a.w.s. is the last law bearing prophet and he is the seal (khaatam) of all prophets.
Allah has stopped sending more prophets in the way that He used to send prophets. After the arrival of the seal of the prophets, Allah has placed the prophet hood in the hands of the seal of the prophets.
Now any one who will be a completely obedient to Allah and Muhammad s.a.w.s., he will be among the prophets (4:70) It is a different kind of prophet hood. It is not a permanent prophet hood and not a direct prophet hood.
Only Muhammad s.a.w.s. is a seal (Khaatam) of the prophets. He is the last because his message is the last message for mankind and will remain the last message for ever. No other new message will ever come to replace or overtake/ override the message given to the prophet Muhammad s.a.w.s.
It is a new kind of prophet hood whereby the true followers of the prophet Muhammad s.a.w.s. receive divine messages (communion or Wahi).
The poor Muslims have denied the sub-ordinate prophet hood and the Wahi altogether. The coming of the Messiah in this Ummah was foretold by an oath of Allah, by the prophet Muhammad himself (s.a.w.s.).
The other major mistake the Muslims made was to keep Jesus a.s. alive in heavens and bury Muhammad s.a.w.s. underground. That was against the teachings of the Quran and Hadith.
Just because the Prophet s.a.w.s. said that Jesus son of Mary shall surely arrive amongst you, it does not mean that Jesus a.s. is alive. Verses of the Quran are of high level language and have to be interpreted wisely.
In Quran, every good believer (male or female) is likened to Maryam (last verse of chapter 66) and in a Hadith, the prophet s.a.w.s. said, “I am more entitled to be called Ibne Maryam”= Anaa aula bi Ibne Maryam.
So the prophet Muhammad s.a.w.s. is saying that he is more close to the son of Maryam a.s. (More later if required). Wassalam.
from where did you get a “sub-ordinate prophethood” concept from?
The Quran only mentions about Prophet. there is no such teaching as shadow prophet or sub-ordinate prophet.
Regarding the Quran 4:69 ; it refers to the great reward in jannah of being in company of the prophets, the steadfast affirmers of truth, the martyrs and the righteous. And excellent are those as companions.
its clear from the text that it refers to the herefafter since we cannot be in company with the martyrs in this world beacuse the martyrs are those who passed away in the cause of Allah (SWT). Also notice that the plural word of prophets is used in the above verse, so its clear that the reward mentioned in the verse refers to the akhira.
nobody from this ummah has been in company with prophetS in this world.
And Allah (SWT) knows best
where can i find a link regarding the Quran and its miracles on the al-islam website?
Parvez, you are right. Those highly obedient persons who obey Allah and the prophet s.a.w.s. will be amongst the prophets, The siddiques, the Martyrs and righteous people in the next life.
They will be in company of the above four groups in Jannah. If they do not hold the status of a prophet in this world, how they will be in the company of the prophets?
Many Muslims in this Ummah attained the title (laqab) and were fit to become a prophet (Muhaddath). They were not given the name of prophet. Only One person is known to have been given the name of prophet i.e. addressed as prophet.
The Siddiqeen will be in the company with the Prophets. They themselves dont need the status of prophethood to be with the Prophets in the hereafter.
The sahabas are not prophets.
you mentioned many Muslims attained the title? who are those Muslims?
The verse is telling us that many devout Muslims will be among the prophets and Siddiques and martyrs and Saliheen. That is the people of this Ummah will be in the company of above four groups.
So some will attain the status of prophets and some will be in the other three status groups.
If any will be in the company of prophets in next life, he should be taken as a prophet in this life too.
I cannot provide the names of those who attained the title of prophet in this life but the verse is telling that some persons of this Ummah will be among the prophets. And one saying of Syed Abdul Qadir Jeelani (Rh.a.) is telling us about it in the following words:
“The prophets were named as prophets but we who are of this Ummah, we get the title of prophet. The name of Al-Nabi is (forbideen) not given to us even though Allah, in our solitude (privacy) makes us understand the meaning of his speech and that of his messenger s.a.w.s.
And the person holding such title (status) is from the supporting prophets. (the word used is: He is from the Anbiaa Aulia.) [Al-Yawaqueet wal Jawahir, vol. 2, pages 43-45]
There is a Hadith as follows: The prophet s.a.w.s. said “Abu Bakr is the best person in this Ummah except that there becomes a prophet.” The word used in that Hadith is “Illa an yakoona Nabiyyan.” which means ‘except that a prophet be born in this Ummah’.
Yakoona means appearing from nothing i.e. like Kun Fayakoon, something which was not there and it became.
The Prophet (Peace be upon him) said: “Abu Bakr (ra) is the best amongst all people after me BUT HE IS NOT A PROPHET” [Al Kamil by Ibn Adi, Volume No. 6, Page No. 484]
This hadith is shown as a proof that had there been any Prophet after Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) then Sahaba deserved the best of it, but even Sayyidna Abu Bakr (ra) was not a Prophet as is clearly and explicitly mentioned in this hadith just like Umar (RA) was not a prophet.
Sahīh Muslim, Chapter 30, Chapter 31, Book 30, Number 5813:
Abu Mūsā Ash’ari reported that Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) mentioned many names of his and said: I am Muhammad, Ahmad. Muqaffi (the last in succession), Hashir, the Prophet of repentance, and the Prophet of Mercy. [Sahih Muslim]
In the Mustadrak of al-Hākim, Volume 2, Hadīth number 4186:
From Nafi` ibn Jubair ibn Mut`am from his father, said, “I heard the Messanger of Allāh may Allāh bless him and give him peace say, ‘I am Muhammad (The praised one), Ahmad (The praiseworthy), Al-Muqaffā (The last in succession), Al-hāshir (the gatherer), Al-Khātim (The Seal), and Al-‘Aqib (The last). [Hakim]
6th Centuryreformer; ‘Abdul Qadir al-Jilānī
The following two quotes are from The Secret of Secrets, in the Introduction. All Praise is due to Allah; He is gracious, and compassionate Lord, Who has gathered all knowledge in His Essence and Who is the creator of all knowledge for eternity. The cause, the reason of all existence, is from His existence. All praise is due to Allah, and He has sent the Glorious Qur’an that bears in its essence the reason for its revelation, which is to remind men of Allah; He sent it to the guide who leads men on the path of truth with the mightiest of all religions. All peace and blessings be upon His beloved prophet Muhammad, who was not taught by man, but by Him. He is His last prophet, the last link in the chain of Prophethood who was brought to a world gone astray, the most honoured among His prophets, honoured by the most honoured of divine books. His progeny are guides for seekers; his companions were chosen among the good and benevolent. May abundant peace and blessings be upon their souls. This is under the sub-section titled “On the Beginning of Creation” in the Introduction. The Prophets kept coming, and the divine message continued until there appeared the great spirit of Muhammad (saw), the last of the messengers who saved people from distraction. Allah Most High sent him to open the eyes of the hearts of the heedless. His purpose was to awaken them from the sleep of unconsciousness and to unite them with the Eternal beauty, with the Cause, with the Essence of Allah. Allah says in His Holy Qur’an:
Say: This is my way. I call to Allah with the certainty of insight – I and those who follow me… (Surah Yusuf, 108)
To indicate the path of our Master, the Prophet .صلى ا عليه و سلم
) Imam Hajar Asqalani
He wrote in his commentary of Bukhari:
“When revelation was cut off with the Holy Prophet’s death, ilham [revelation to saints] came to those whom God chose.”
(Fath al-Bari, vol. i, p. 332)
Jazak Allahu Qaira Parvez bhai, May Allah SWT accept you effor in removing the misconception of these so called … Qidyaniss- they should not be called Ahmadis!!.
Truely they are the misguided peoples, that is the very reason they are banned in pakistan!.
Requesting all people to recite the Kalima again and
get into true fold of islam.
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Parvez and Mujeeb, I will settle the score with you if you reply me on the following few points. That will let me know which way you are going.
1. Has Jesus son of Mary a.s. died or is he still alive some where?
2. Is Wahi different to Ilhaam?
Just answer these two questions please.
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3. Muhammad s.a.w.s. is indeed the last messenger who got any divine message for the mankind. This is agreed by all Ahmadis. They all recite the Kalimah Tayyabah.
All Ahmadis pray 5 times a day and worship Allah alone. They pay Zakat too. And they fast in the month of Ramadhan. Keep all these points in mind please.
4. Ahmadis perform Hajj if permitted and no obstacle.
5. I had presented a Hadith as follows with reference: The prophet Muhammad s.a.w.s. said “AbuBakr is the best in this Ummah except if any prophet appears.” Please sea proper words in my older post. Parvez has not discussed that Hadith.
6. I had presented another Hadith which reported that “Nothing remains of the prophethood (Nabuwwat) except good news (Mubasshiraat).” It means something of Nabuwwat still remains.
7. Some non-Ahmadis are not Muslims according to the teachings of the Quran because they are not peaceful. The word “Kufr” applies to all those who are fanatic believers.
8. There is a verse of the Quran which states:” Do not say to any one who offers salaam to you that he is not a Momin.” The non-Ahmadis disregard that important verse.
8. There is a Hadith, “Even if you find 99 % wrong belief in any one and only one% good beliefs, do not call him non-believer”
9. The non-Ahamdis are disobeying all the commands of Allah and his messenger (Muhammad s.a.w.s.). Still they are adamant to call Ahmadis as Kafir.
10. The non-Ahmadis do not follow the command: “Laa ikraha fee al-Deen.” There is no compulsion in the religion. i.e. way of life.
Every wrong thing is being done by non-Ahmadis. I need reply to my first two points. Then I will come back with more supporting verses from the Quran, Insha Allah.
you mentioned that we are disobeying all of the commands of Allah (SWT), could you prove such irrational claim? even mirza alleged that who ever does not believe in him then they are not mu’min! its ironing that even you ghulam sarwar are giving indirect judgments on some Muslims by declaring them as kafir! so you yourself contradict the Quran!
you and your whole group seem to obsessed with the argument about Jesus. we have discussed this before and the evidence and statements of the early scholars are clear about Jesus. All the mujaddid were Sunni Muslims and i believe what they believed regarding Prophethood, Jesus, Wahi and ilham.
Regarding the hadith about Abu Bakr (RA) i already gave the correct hadith about with reference. the one you gave is weak or fabricated and it contradicts the Quran chapter 33 verse 40 and many other authentic hadith.
there are many hadith that clearly state that Prophet Muhammad (SAW) is the seal of prophets and thus prophethood has been completed by him. Nobody else can attain prophethood after Muhammad Sallallahu alaihi wasallam. Prophet Muhammad (saw) said; “I am the last prophet there is no prophet after me.” [Abdul Malik’s Muwatta, Bukhari, Muslim, Abu dawud, Musnad Ahmad and ibn majah]
What do you say about the following hadith; Muhammad (saw) said: “If an Apostle were to succeed me, it would have been ‘Umar bin Khattab.” [Tirmidhi,Kitab-ul- Manaqib]
In Islamic Aqeedah, wahi is different from ilham.
) Imam Abdul Wahhab Shi‘rani:
“The door of Prophethood is closed after the Holy Prophet Muhammad, and shall not be opened for anyone till the Day of Judgment. However, revelation (ilham) remains for the saints, which does not contain Shariah in it.”
(Al-Yawaqit wal-Jawahir – The book of rubies and jewels, p. 37)
The Quran says about auliya:
“Now surely the auliya of God — there is no fear upon them nor do they grieve. Those who believe and guard against evil, for them are good news (bushra) in this world and the hereafter.” (Quran 10:64, 65)
As to what bushra means, the Holy Prophet explained the above verse to his followers as below:
“He said: Nothing remains of Prophethood except mubashshirat [same as bushra]. People said: What are mubashshirat? He said: True dreams.”
(Bukhari, Book of Interpretation of Dreams, chapter Mubashshirat)
The belief of the mujaddid’s regarding the Messiah Isa ibn Maryam (AS);
2nd Century: Imam Abu ʿAbdullah Muhammad ibn Idris al-Shafi‘i (767/150 – 820/204 CE/AH)
“In the same way that the Prophet ‘Isa عليه السلام ascended to the heavens at Allah’s command, he will also return to Earth at Allah’s command and will enforce Islamic justice. People whose faith is weak may not regard this as possible. But it is an easy matter after recognizing the might of Allah.” (The Great Book of Scholarship of Shafi’i, Halil Günenç, expanded 2nd edition, p. 23)
3rd Century: Abū Al-Hasan Alī Ibn Ismā’īl Al-Ash’arī (874/260 – 936/324 CE/AH)
“There is a consensus among the community of the faithful [ijma’ ummat] that Jesus عليه السلام was raised alive to the heavens.” (Al-Ash’ari, Al-Ash’ari’s al-Ibana ‘an Usul al-Diyana, (Cairo: 1986), 2:115)
4th Century: Abu Abd-Allah Muhammad ibn Abd-Allah al-Hakim al-Nishaburi (933/321 – 1012/403 CE/AH)
[He is the author of the ahadith collection Al-Mustadrak in which he states that] “…Ibn Abbas رضي الله عنه said about the verse of the Holy Qur’an (4:159): “This verse is proof that Jesus عليه السلام, son of Mary, will appear… All of the People of the Book will believe in him before his death.”” (Al-Hakim, Al-Mustadrak, 2:309)
5th Century: Abū Hāmed Muhammad Ibn Muhammad Ghazālī (1058 CE – 1111/505 CE/AH)
“…then the Qur’an would be erased from hearts and not a word of it would be remembered; and the people would return to the poetry, songs, and tales of the pre-Islamic period; then the Anti-Christ would go forth and ‘Isa, the blessings and peace of God upon him, would descend to kill him. The hour when all this occurs would be like the pregnant woman in travail, waiting for the moment of her delivery.” (The Secrets of Pilgrimage, p.17)
“Out of the Prophets, Jesus Christ عليه السلام did not marry but he will marry after his second advent.” (The Revival of the Religious Sciences, Ihya Ulum Uddin, Secret of Marriages, p.21)
6th Century: ‘Abd al-Qadir al-Jilani (1077 – 1166 CE)
“Jesus عليه السلام did not marry; he never took a wife. At the end of time, Allah (Exalted is He) will send him back down to the earth, and He will then marry him to a young woman of Quraish, who will bear him a son.” (Utterances of Shaikh ‘Abd al-Qadir al-Jilani (Malfuzat): Collected Sayings from the Crown of Saints, translated by Muthar Holland, p.58)
7th Century: Ahmad Ibn Taymiyyah (1263 – 1328 CE)
“The verse [4:158] “He raised him to His Presence” … explains that Jesus عليه السلام was raised in both body and soul.” (Imam Ibn Taymiyya, Majmu’ Fatawa, trans. by Abdurrahman ibn Muhammad ibn Qasim al-Asimi an-Najdi, 4:323)
8th Century: Ibn Hajar Al-Asqalani (1372/773 – 1448/852 CE/AH)
“The Mahdi is of this Ummah, and that Jesus عليه السلام will come down and pray behind him.” (Fath al-Baari, v.5, p.362)
“…there was no Prophet between Jesus عليه السلام and our Prophet [Muhammad], on whom peace and blessings of Allah and Jesus عليه السلام has no grave.” (Fath al-Baari 2/160, Kitabul Salaah)
9th Century: Jalaluddin Al-Suyuti (1445/849 – 1505/911 CE/AH)
“As-Suyuti says Jerusalem is specially honoured by Muslims… It was at Jerusalem that the prophets sacrificed; that Jesus was born and spoke in his cradle; and it was from Jerusalem that Jesus ascended to heaven; and it will be there that he will again descend.” (A Moslem Seeker After God, Samuel M. Zwemer, p.115)
In his commentary, al-Suyuti said, based on reliable hadith, that the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) did not die, and then continued: “In that case, Jesus عليه السلام was raised to the skies and will return before the Day of Judgment.” (Durr al-Manthur, 2:225-27)
“This word [kahlaan] expresses the fact that he (Jesus عليه السلام) will descend from the heavens before the Day of Judgment, because he was raised to the skies before attaining old age.” (Tafsir al-Jalalayn, Surah al-Ma’ida (5):110, 1:447)
11th Century: Rabbānī Shaykh Ahmad Al-Farūqī Al-Sirhindī Mujaddid Alf Thānī (1564 – 1624 CE)
“Jesus عليه السلام will descend from the sky and will be a member of Prophet Muhammad’s (may God bless him and grant him peace) community. In other words, he will be one of his people and will abide by the Divine law.” (Letters of Rabbani (Istanbul: 1977), 1:436, 545, 722, 820, 846)