63% of Americans say it is NOT necessary to believe in God in order to be moral

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  1. Well, interesting subject. There are some topics where it is sort of easy to differentiate what is moral or acceptable and what is not. Killing for instance or theft I suppose. Where it gets more complicated is in the sexual morals. The religions give clear guidance. The non-religious may have different opinions for instance whether adultry is permissable or not…

    • Adultery is not really in question. That is an offense that injures another party against their will. That is the basis of a perfect morality. While religion has always wanted to govern fertility, there is no “sin” in consensual relationships. Personal autonomy inside a framework of equal protection would be the baseline for a fair and equal society for all.

  2. The difference in atheism and belief is this; belief subjects your will to obedience at any cost. You can see throughout history that believers have blindly followed belief into battle. Atheism is simply ethical living without obedience. I trust myself far greater than I trust any cleric to tell me what I must do.
    Even the first 5 of 10 commandments stresses allegiance first to god. Well, when his prophets are warmongering for him, that is a huge problem against ethical living.

  3. Now non religious people see that the religious people ( Muslim) kill more people in the name of their religion than non religious people kill people.

    Now, the religion make people imoral, brutality and stupidity.
    For example

    Sahih Muslim 33—”I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah”
    Sahih Muslim 4366—“ I will expel the Jews and Christian from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim”
    Sahih Muslim 6922:—Those who changed his Islamic religion, kill them.

    Million people follow this teaching right now in Islamic countries, very sad indeed😌
    With love ❤️

      • Islam is religion of progressive. If Islam is not progressive, we live in primitive way of life like life of our prophet, many wives, and slaves, marry young girl ( 6 year old) like prophet did.

        Rape captive women is allowful —cut off hand, leg, and head in front of public.

        Do you want to follow the old Islamic law? Rafiq??

        🙏🙏🙏

      • So, other than you being a nut job, I was hoping for a legitimate answer from a real Muslim. Thanks anyway

      • Bullshit, if I may say so. We have posted an article about Aisha’s age of marriage. You do not read it? Google it then. And you are not watching the programs of http://www.mta.tv on sharia law.

  4. We are never going to agree so if you can agree to disagree I would like to say that we do not need religion. At the base of all worldly religions is a mind control program! What we do need is great self love & compassion for other human beings let’s just start there and see where that goes!

    • I think you will like this verse of the Holy Qur’an. ” In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful Say, ‘O ye disbelievers! I worship not that which you worship. Nor worship you that I worship. And I am not going to worship that what you worship. Nor will you worship what I worship. For you your religion and for me my religion. ” Chapter 109, Al Kafirun.

  5. Old Arab tradition, God allowed to marry 6 years old girl.
    Q.65:4,
    The majority of traditional sources state that Aisha was betrothed to Muhammad at the age of six , but she stayed in her parents’ home until the age of nine, according to Ibn Hisham, when the marriage was consummated with Muhammad, then 53, in Medina.
    .
    If we use the modern standard of life — marry young girl 6 year old with man 54 years old is imoral, and ridiculous.
    People will laugh it.😃

    That is why I urge Islamic scholars to reform Islamic teaching to modern interpretation of Islam

    With love ❤️

  6. The prophet was a model of the teachings of the Quran.

    “And prove the orphans until they attain the age of marriage; then, if you find in them sound judgment, deliver to them their property; and devour it not in extravagance and haste against their growing up. And whoso is rich, let him abstain; and whoso is poor, let him eat thereof with equity. And when you deliver to them their property, then call witnesses in their presence. And Allah is sufficient as a Reckoner.” (Al Quran 4:6)

  7. Rafiq : because you cannot understand some. learn !!!!

    I cannot follow what prophet Muhammad ( saw) did in marriage case.
    1. Prophet married 40 years old Khadijah
    2. Prophet marriage 11 wives after Khadijah died 65 years old
    3. Prophet marriage Aishah 6 years or 9 years old. Prophet Muhammad 54 years old.

    One reason that a Christian want to convert to Islam just for Sex—They can marry 4 wives, Christianity allow 1 wife for life time.
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    Ahmadiyyah scholars should reject the outdated law of Islam.

    With love ❤️

    • crazy Somi as usual. Christians need not to convert to Islam for sex. Sex has no rules in the ‘enlightened West’. They can have as many partners as they like. Ask Weinstein etc.

      If it was for sex the Prophet (saw) would have married young and beautiful wives, not widows. Plenty of views if you would be interested: https://www.reviewofreligions.org/?s=wives+of+prophet but you have your closed mind

      • The truth is before Islam came to Muhammad 25 years old Muhammad married a rich women Khadijah 40 years old.

        He married Khadijah for 25 years, only 1 wife. Khadijah was a Nasrani. Tradition Nasrani was 1 wife and 1 husband. Muhammad was following Christianity faith. One wife.

        After Khadijah died at 65 years and Prophet Muhammad 50 years old he married 11 wives and had many beautiful slaves : look at verses
        Q.65:4, Q.33:50-51, Q.23:5-6

        Prophet Muhammad also married his daughter ( zainab ) who had a husband.

        The west follow Prophet Muhammad in marriage case. Temporary marriage or Mutahhh Q.4:24. ( prostitution marriage ) and free sex etc.
        Rafiq! Learn more Al Quran detailly🙏

  8. Somi go find a life. Look at the achievements of the person and avoid judging him by the present day standards or there will be only villains in human history and no heroes.

  9. Mullion Muslims still follow the old day standards, or the time of prophet Standards of living including Ahmadiyyah.

    I suggest Muslim to leave the outdated law and let us reform the old laws !

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