Muslims and the modern state: What’s the big problem?

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    The system Caliphate presents itself as the restoration of a very ancient form of government based on Al Quran; QS 2;30.

    Saudi Arabia, ISIS, and other extremist Muslim are so proud to uphold the very ancient Islamic laws. Those who does not follow ancient Islamic laws will be accused infidel or “khafir” or heresy etc.

    For example;
    1. you still advocate the harsh punishment such as; beheading, flogging, hanging, cut off the hand, crucifixion, and execution will be carried out at front of public square. (QS 5; 33).QS 5; (38),QS 24;(2). still advocate the women slavery again, in 21st Century QS. 23:6. QS. 70:29, Sura 33:50. QS. 4:24 QS24; (33), QS 24: (58). still implement the Jizyah to Christians again in 21st Century QS 9;29.
    4. you still advocate men has the right to marry more than 1, or polygamy QS. 4;3
    5. you still advocate the act of discrimination between male and female related to inheritance. QS 4;11.
    6. you still advocates husband has the right to punish his wife if she reject sexual with her husband QS 4;3.
    7. You still advocate women to wear burqa or to cover the whole her body with cloth QS 33;59.
    8. You still advocate to forbid a Christians for your friends and protectors (leader) in Islamic country as Saudi Arabia.and ISIS, Taliban, QS 5:51.

    9. Women have to wear Hijab, Burqa, Veil.
    10. They advocate not to eat meat that slaughtered by non Islam.
    11. They advocate eat “Halal food”
    12. They advocate Bank Islam.
    13. They advocate Islamic State, Syariah States.
    14. They reject the system Secular_democracy.
    15.. They forbid marry with non Muslim.
    16. They forbid non Muslim to to be employee in Bank Islam, Airline etc
    17. They forbid non Muslim to join army, Police, and to hold a important position in Government.

    We stand for universal peace, love and compassion. We reject violent jihad. We believe we must target the ideology of violent Islamist extremism in order to liberate individuals from the scourge of oppression and terrorism both in Muslim-majority societies and the West.

    We stand for the protection of all people of all faiths and non-faith who seek freedom from dictatorships, theocracies and Islamist extremists.

    We reject bigotry, oppression and violence against all people based on any prejudice, including ethnicity, gender, language, belief, religion, sexual orientation and gender expression.

    We support equal rights for women, including equal rights to inheritance, witness, work, mobility, personal law, education, and employment. We reject sexism and misogyny.

    We are for secular governance, democracy and liberty. We are against political movements in the name of religion. We reject the idea of the Islamic state. There is no need for an Islamic caliphate. We oppose institutionalized sharia.

    We believe in life, joy, free speech and the beauty all around us. Every individual has the right to publicly express criticism of Islam. Ideas do not have rights. Human beings have rights. We reject blasphemy, apostasy, gay-lesbian laws. They are a cover for the restriction of freedom of speech and religion.

    We support to reform the criminal-sentences such as beheading, flogging, cut off the hands, hanging, crucified, and cut off the legs, and stoning, is conducted at front of crowded people as the witness.

    We support to reform the slavery laws, and inheritance laws, which is woman inherited ½ of man.

    We support the idea that women do not feel sin or guilty if she does not want to cover her hair, except if she live in desert, she have to cover her head, and face too.

    I strongly urge educated Muslims who live in the Western countries should advocate the reformation of the ancient Islamic laws. Otherwise. Muslim do not fit to live in Modern Society.

    Was Salam

  2. Well said my friend, people have rights ideas do not. As long as Islam rejects the rights of some people it will never be compatible with democracy. But change must come from within. Islam must reform itself much like Christianity has several times.

    Thank you.

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