65 Reasons to Believe Jesus Did Not Die on the Cross

Read about Jesus: The humble prophet of God – His life, Crucifixion & his death 
 This post was originally made by Ghulam Ahmed Rabbi
Author:  Imam I. H. Kauser, National President of Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, Australia
Empty Tomb in Resthaven Memorial Park in Texas, USA

Empty Tomb in Resthaven Memorial Park in Texas, USA

The Tomb of Jesus  (courtesy of www.bibleistrue.com)
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1.   Why crucifixion?

Jews wanted him to be killed through crucifixion, so they can prove that Jesus is not a beloved of God, rather the curse of God is on him. Jews could have killed him easily as they were in hundreds of thousands in number and very strong. If killing should have been their desire, they could have done it easily. Just like they paid thirty pieces of silver to one of his disciples, if they would have paid him more, he might have done this service too. But they wanted him to be crucified so they can prove that he is not from God, rather he is an imposter and a fabricator. If he was from God, then God will definitely save him. May be that was the reason that Jesus was so reluctant to suffer on the cross.

2.   Who wanted him to be crucified?

Two of Jesus’ disciples commented (in Luke 24:20) as follows:

And how the chief priests and our rulers delivered him to be condemned to death, and have crucified him. (Luke 24:20)

They all say unto him, Let him be crucified. And the Governor said what evil hath he done? But they cried out the more, saying Let him be crucified…. Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children. (Matt 27: 22-25)

3.   Crucifixion was demanded by the Jews

When the chief priests therefore and officers saw him, they cried out, saying, Crucify him, crucify him. (John 19:6)

The Jews answered him (Pilate), We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God. (John 19:7)


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4.  One incident and many aspects?

  1.  Romans took it as punishment of sedition.
  2. The Jews made it as a punishment of blasphemy.
  3. Jesus considers it a killing, when one of his disciples betrayed him.
  4. Christians think a sacrifice presented for our salvation.

Who is right?

5.  Why Jesus was hiding?

That’s why the Jews paid thirty pieces of silver to Judas giving them the necessary information about Jesus.

Neither go into town, nor tell it to any in the town.  (Mark 8: 26)

And he charged them that they should tell no man of him. ((Mark 8: 30)

6.  Jesus’ prayers and supplications to be saved from crucifixion:

Sit ye here, while I go and pray yonder.            (John 26: 36)

And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me.   (John 26: 39)

…. He went away again, and prayed the second time and prayed, saying ……and prayed the third time, saying the same words.   (John 26:42-44)

7.  God always hears his prayers and his prayers were heard

And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I think thee that thou hast heard me. And I knew that thou hearest me always.       (John 11:41-42)

Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared.  (Hebrews 5:7)

8.   An Angel was sent to strengthen Jesus?

And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him. And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground.  (Luke 22: 43-44)

9.   Pilate delays in judgment

Pilate intentionally delayed in giving his verdict and did not deliver his judgment until and unless he was sure that due to the Sabbath, Jesus would be on the cross for only a few hours. Jesus a thirty-three years young person was on the cross for only few (3-6) hours.

10.  Pilate’s complete favor to Jesus

Pilate was in complete favor of Jesus, considering him innocent, and for his wife’s dream, was trying to save his life. That’s why Pilate wanted to use his special right to free one person, but the Jews did not let him do it.

Pilate said unto them, whom will ye that I release unto you? Barabbas or Jesus…. But the chief Priests and the elders persuaded the multitude that they should ask Barabbas, and destroy Jesus. The Governor answered and said unto them, whether of the twain will ye that I release unto you? They said Barabbas. Matt 27: 17-21)

11.   Pilate’s wife sees a dream to save Jesus

When he sat down on the judgment seat, his wife sent unto him saying, Have thou nothing to do with that just man: for I have suffered many things this day in a dream because of him.”  (Matt 27:19)

Why was this dream was against the purpose of the advent of Jesus, to give his life on the cross? Her dream should have been that crucify him immediately. Let him finish his work. But her dream was against it. Although her dream was so special that it was mentioned in the Bible.

12.  Pilate finds him “Not guilty

 … Pilate … he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person. (Matt 27:24)

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Earthquake, eclipse & a storm – A sign of God’s disliking & anger

An earthquake, eclipse of Sun and a Storm, all three occurred just after the crucifixion is a clear sign of God’s anger.

Now from sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour. (Matt 27:45)

…the earth did quake, and the rocks rent. (Matt 27: 51)

14.   Pilate marveled

And Pilate marveled if he were already dead. (Mark 15: 44)

When Pilate was informed about the death of Jesus on the cross, he marveled at hearing it. We know that Pilate was the most experienced person in this field; who may have experienced hundreds of crucifixions in his time. That is why; he knew very it well that a 33 years, unmarried young person shouldn’t die in few hours, while the other two thieves (elder than him) were still alive after the crucifixion.

15.   The other two (thieves) next to Jesus were still alive so they broke their legs

Then came the soldiers, and brake the legs of the first, and of the other which was crucified with him. (John 19: 32)

16.   Blood and Water – a great sign of Jesus’ life

When a soldier pierced a spear in Jesus’ side, blood and water gushed out from his body, with full pressure, is a sign and a witness that Jesus’ heart was still pumping and he was alive

But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water. (John 19:34)

Why coming of blood and water is so important that the narrator of the incident specially describes:

And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe. (John 19:35)

The person has put all stress on the truth of this witness, because of the great importance of it.

17.  Why the soldiers checked Jesus alive or dead, piercing him a spears. What was the criteria, then to recognize?

The concept that one of the soldiers pierced Jesus a spear to check him, either he is alive or not, does not make any sense until and unless there was really a way of checking this way. Piercing Jesus a spear or some other way? What was that? How did they do it? Because one of the soldiers pierced a spear in Jesus’ body. Not to check his life or death. Otherwise they should have done the same with other two also.

18.  Jesus legs were not broken

But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead already, they broke not his legs: (John 19:33)

19.  Jesus was not buried in the grave

The Jewish custom for the last thousands of years was to bury the deceased in the ground. Because the disciples knew the predictions, which were made earlier by Jesus Christ, they kept Jesus’ body in a sepulcher. If they had buried him in a grave, he would have died. But his disciples placed him in a roomy “Sepulcher?” Rather then burying him in the ground according to the Jewish custom and traditions.

20.   Neither Jews nor Christians are sure about Jesus’ death on the cross

There was a very strong earthquake, a storm and an eclipse of sun just after the crucifixion of Jesus, that made all Jews and Romans run away from the sight. That is why; neither Jews nor the Christians are sure about the death of Jesus on the cross but a gesture.

21.    The stone on the sepulcher was removed

(For a spirit, does not need to remove the stone)

Jesus forbade Mary Magdalene to touch him.

Touch me not. (John 20:17)


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22.  Jesus said, “ He has not ascended yet. What did he really mean?

Jesus said unto her (Mary Magdalene), touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God and your God. (John 20:17)

What are the real meanings of ascension here, when Jesus said to Mary “I am not yet ascended to my Father.”

Certainly, it was understood and very clear without any doubt that Jesus had not ascended yet, while he was standing just in front of her. Then why Jesus said that he was not ascended yet?

23.  Mary did not react, when she saw Jesus alive. Why?

24.  Disciples were terrified seeing Jesus. (Luke 24: 39)

25.    Jesus ate food, in the presence of his disciples.

… he said unto them, have ye here any meet? And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and an honeycomb. And he took it, and did eat before them. (Luke 24:41-42)

Jesus saith unto them, come and dine. And none of the disciples durst ask him, Who are thou? Knowing that it was the Lord. Jesus then cometh, and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish likewise. (John 21: 12-13)

A spirit does not need any food but our physical body, which becomes weak after a while, without having food. Why Jesus needed food, if he had gone back to his original body of God.

For forty days he was meeting his disciples to assure them that he was alive and now going to the lost sheep of house of Israel, as he promised and assigned by God like Jonah was assigned to the Nin-e-viets.

 …many infallible proofs being seen of them for forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God.  (Acts 1:3)

26.    Jesus never showed himself to the Jews (who challenged him) after he was saved from the accursed death of cross.

27.   How come Jesus never said “I was dead and now I am alive?

28.  Jesus’ prediction about his sign to be very similar to the sign of Jonah

Jesus predicted his sign would be similar to the sign of Jonas.

An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall be no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s bally; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.  (Matt 12:39-40)

This is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet. For as Jonas was a sign unto the Nin-e-vites, so shall also the Son of man be to this generation…for they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here.         (Luke 11:29-32)

Now the Lord had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the bally of the fish three days and three nights. (Jonah 1:17)

And Lord spake unto the fish, and it vomited out Jonah upon the dry land. (Jonah 2:10)

And the word of the Lord came unto Jonah the second time, saying, Arise, go unto Nineveh, that great city, and preach unto it preaching that I bid thee. And Jonah arose, and went unto Nineveh.  (Jonah 3:1-3)

  1. Jonas entered into the belly of whale aliveJesus died on the cross and entered in the heart of the earth dead.
  2.  Jonas remained alive in the bally of whale. – Jesus Remained dead.
  3.  Jonas came out alive bodily.Jesus came out in spirit.
  4.  Jonas stayed three days and three nights in the bally of whale. – Jesus one day and two nights.
  5.  Jonas went back to his people. – Jesus went back to heaven. Without fulfilling the promise which he made earlier, “I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.  (Matt 15:24)

Jesus should have gone to the lost tribe of Israel, as Jonas went to his people “Nin-e-vites”, not to heaven.

29.  Appearance of an Angel, saying, why, you looking for a living person into the dead.

And it come to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments: And as they were afraid, and bowed down their faces to the earth, they said unto them, Why seeketh ye the living among the dead.   (Luke 24:4-5)

And when they found not his body, they came, saying, that they had also seen a vision of angels, which said that he was alive.    (Luke 24:23)

30.  The stone of tomb was removed

It was a physical body not a spiritual one:

And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulcher.  (Luke 24: 2)

31.   Jesus’ prayers against his death on the cross

Jesus prayed again and over again, saying, O God, take this cup away from him. Why he prayed against the purpose of his advent?

And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me….” (Mark 14:36)

If his escape from the death on the cross was not possible then why Jesus was praying for it? Didn’t he know?

32.    Jesus awakening his disciples, requesting for special prayers for his safety

“…saith to his disciples, sit ye here, while I go and pray yonder…. And began to be sorrowful and very heavy…  And he cometh unto the disciples, and findeth them asleep, and said unto Peter, What, could ye not watch with me one hour? Watch and pray…” (Matt 26: 36-41)

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33.  Jesus’ in flesh and bones after he had risen

Jesus showing his hands and feet to his disciples, proving and arguing them, that he was alive bodily.

They were terrified and affrighted and supposed that they had seen a spirit. And he said unto them, why are ye troubled? And why do thoughts are in your hearts? Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see for a spirit hath no flesh and bones, as you see me have…. he shewed them his hands and his feet.” (Luke 24:37-40)

34.    Why Jesus needed the body (Flesh) again?

35.   Jesus’ wounds- a great sign of his survival

Jesus through showing his wounds to his disciples was proving that he was alive bodily:

The other disciples therefore said unto him, we have seen the Lord. But he (Thomas) said unto them, except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of his nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe… Then he said to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: be not faithless, but believing. (John 20: 25-27)

A Spirit can’t have the wounds. It means he was alive bodily.

Why Jesus addressed Thomas “not to be faithless but believing? Jesus advised Thomas to have faith, but in which and what? Yes! Faith in the fulfillment of the promise of God saving Jesus from the accursed death on the cross which Jews had designed for him.

Why Jesus had a physical body after he had risen from the dead? Why this physical body still had the signs of wounds? Now there should have been nothing but his soul and spirit? Did he want to take these wounds along with him to the heavens to show them to God? If that is the case, then, we know very well, that these wounds alone did not kill him, but many other things including the cross. If he needed the proofs of his service to be presented to God, then he should have taken all his wounds including, the signs of flogging, beating, hitting, kicking, spitting and the cross (piece of wood) on which he was crucified.

36.   Jesus prayers and God’s response: (Hebrews 5:7)

37.   Hungry Jesus, asking for food

He ate fish and a honeycomb.

38.    Jesus’ shroud: -“Shroud of Turin” a sign that Jesus was alive.

And when Joseph had taken the body, he wrapped it in a clean linen cloth.” Matt 27:59)

39.    Using 100 pounds of aloes, myrrh and some other spices on Jesus’ body, as the manner of Jews. Whether Jews use 100 pound of myrrh, aloes and some other spices at their burial? Or there were some special arrangements were made for Jesus’ safety. Nicodemus, who was a physician and a disciple of Jesus, made this special arrangement before the crucifixion of Jesus:

And there came also Nicodemus, which at the first came to Jesus by night, and brought a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about an hundred pound weight. Then took they the body of Jesus, and wound it in linen clothes with the spices, as the manner of the Jews is to burry. (John 19:39-40)

40.    Jesus said “I am going to ‘Galilee’ before the disciples.”

41.   An error made by the Jews: – “….the last error shall be worse than the first.” (Matt 27:64)

Jews accepted that they had made an error. What kind of error had they made?  Now they were afraid not to make another error. Did they make another error? Yes! They did.

42.   Why Jews bribed the soldiers?

Jews bribed large money) the soldiers who had been assigned to guard the sepulcher.

And when they were assembled with the elders, and had taken council, they gave large money unto the soldiers.”(Matt 28:12)

They bribed the soldiers to hide the fact. What was that?

43.   Empty tomb of Jesus (the sepulcher), is a great Mystery. Jesus body was not found in the sepulcher.

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44.   Jews were afraid of a conspiracy: –

Jews were sure, even ahead of time that his disciples will definitely announce, “Jesus had been ascended to heaven” as it is mentioned:

“…Pharisees came together unto Pilate, saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, after three days I will rise again. Command therefore that the sepulcher be made sure until the third day, lest his disciples come by night, and steal his him away, and say unto the people, He is risen from the dead.”(Matt 27: 63-64)

45.   Jesus’ crucifixion- a test of Jews

The crucifixion was made criteria for Jesus’ truth.   The Jews at the time of crucifixion said: –      “…save thyself. If thou be the Son of God, come down from the cross.” (Matt 27:40)

Let him now come down from the cross, and we will believe him.”(Matt 27:42)

He saved others; himself he cannot save.”(Matt 27:42)

46.   Could Jesus save his life? If he is God then perhaps he could.  If he could then it is a suicide.

But, he was constantly pleading to God the Father for the bitter cup to be taken away.

47.   Pilate’s complete favor for Jesus; _Pilate; the Governor tried his best to save Jesus’ life, because of his wife’s dream.

48.   Jesus never demanded “Crucify me”, but the Jews demanded from the Pilate, “Crucify him- crucify him.”

“Then all say unto him, Let him be crucified.” (Matt 27:22)

49.   Jesus defended his case in the court, argued with the Jews, and refuted their accusations. Jesus never said, “Hurry up crucify me, for I have come, just for this purpose, although I am already 4000 years late, going by the Biblical calendar and time of Adam and Eve.”

50.   Jesus never went to the cross happily, but in miserable situation.

51.    Who compelled Jesus to be crucified and why?

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52.   Jesus said: “For salvation is of the Jews.” (John 4:22) What it means? And why only for the Jews?

53.  Crucifixion – a killing in the eyes of Jesus.

Why go ye about to kill me? (John 7:19)

But you seek to kill me. (John 8:40)

For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of man is delivered into the hands of men, and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed, he shall rise the third day.   (Mark 9:31)

54.  Jesus complained to God, why have you forsaken me? It means, God for his safety made a promised.

And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, Lama sabachthani? That is to say, My God, My God, why have hast thou forsaken me? (Matt 27:46)

55.  In Jewish law, the “Crucifixion” was an accursed death”-

“…for he that is hanged is accursed of God” (Deut 21: 23)

Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for ud: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree.” (Galatians 3: 13)

56.  Why the disciples of Jesus, when they met him in Galilee, still had  some doubts?      “…Some doubted” (Matt 28:17)

What kind of doubts and what about?

Did they have doubts about Jesus being alive and saved from the accursed death of cross or some thing else?

57.  Jesus said,   “Even so every good tree bringth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringth forth evil fruit.” (Matt 7:17)

How come that this heinous crime of persecuting him mercilessly brought such a good result?

58.  Making his arrest is a greater sin

Jesus answered (to Pilate); He that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin.” (John 19:11)

How a greater sin can bring salvation to the world. Sin means, being disobedient to God, breaking His laws and commandments.

“…the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners. (Matt 26:45)

59.  Jesus accursed Judas for his betrays.

Jesus said, “…but woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! It had been good for that man if he had not been born.” (Matt 26:24)

But, it was Judas who made the salvation possible. If he had not been born, there would not have been any salvation for us.

Jesus said, “It had been good … if he had not been born.”

Why the contradiction?

60.  Who can kill God? God is Holy. Nobody can kill God. God is eternal and immortal, free from the suffering of death. He is always alive. He is out of the approach of the human hands. Sinners’ hands cannot reach Him or harm Him.

If Jesus died for three days and three nights, then he is no longer eternal and hence not co-equal to God the Father.

61.  Why Jesus (if he was a God) let the Jews and Romans disgrace Him and do all kind of insulting and persecution? What “The Most High” means and “God is Great.” God is not supposed to be humble and show not only humility, but actually disgrace at the hands of His enemies.

62.  Jesus never mentioned that the purpose of his coming was to give his life on the cross.

63.  Salvation through keeping the commandments of God:

 Jesus never mentioned that people’s salvation is in believing Jesus’ death on the cross. Rather he promised that the heaven’s eternal life is in following and obeying the commandments of God. As it is in the Book of Matthew:

And behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. (Matt 19:16-17)

64.  If salvation through crucifixion, then the credit goes to Jews, Romans & Judas

They are the Jews who demanded from the Roman Governor Pilate to put him on the cross. And Judas betrayed Jesus and made his arrest possible; otherwise Jesus was hiding in the garden of Gethsemane. Chief Priests paid thirty pieces of silver to Judas for informing the authorities for his arrest.

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65.   A soldier saw Jesus walking, informs the chief priest

The watch” who saw (Jesus and his disciples meeting and going) all these things, told the Chief Priest in the city.

Now when they were going (Jesus and his disciples), behold, some of the watch came into the city, and shewed unto the chief priests all the things that were done. (Matt 28: 11)


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  1. Nick with his “Christian” logic has presumably answered one of my questions.

    He says:


    A: Jesus is God, and God cannot die, therefore the trinity was intact, and there is no reason why Jesus could not have been risen by his own will.
    Jesus dies = Jesus’ body died = Jesus’ soul lives

    I find it very interesting. Sometimes Christians say “orange,” and mean an “apple,” and at other times “orange,” is an “orange.” If you are not confused by this simple switch, Christian apologists can throw in additional fruits, sometimes even vegetables.

    The “Christian” logic allows for this switching of realities. Sometimes one is three and three is one and sometimes the numbers hold. Sometimes Jesus is man and sometimes he is god and sometimes he is both, finite and infinite, vulnerable and infinite, ignorant and All Knowing, sinful and divine, humble and All Powerful. Go figure.

    But, let us analyse who died and who raised whom from the dead.

    Now, Jesus has two natures, human and divine, according to the official Christian dogma. God the Father had sent His son to die for the sins of humans, presumably the divine part of Jesus was to die, but, according to Nick that never happened.

    Son of God never died only son of Mary did.

    Just another man died on the cross, like billions others. There is no atonement, no vicarious payment, Jesus “son of God,” did not die. Mystery solved!

  2. Zia Shah,
    How come you went for 1x1x1x1x1x=1 & Hinduism AND MISSED OUT Infinity x Infinity x Infinity = INFINITY?
    and I cant see any rebuttal to the verses from the Bible which show:
    Plural pronouns used of God PROVING THE TRINITY is God Himself.

  3. Ashok, that was a great example, I should have just used that, lol. Would have made the Trinity so much easier to explain!!!

    Zia, I don’t think you understood the 1x1x1. The Trinity is considered to be something a human mind cannot understand yet … however, we “TRY” to describe it for students as best we can like this: 1x1x1 = 1, rather than 1+1+1=3. This just makes it comprehendable as a learning tool, that’s all it means. It does not mean there are millions of Gods, that comment was disrespectful and you know that.

    For example:***You use the word dogma! Really? Do you even realize that every question you’ve posed to me I’ve answered, and that therefore your attacks are essentially the definition of dogma?

    I will stop you now: You have asked me enough questions and I have answered them … now I ask you one: Why are you so disrespectful towards peaceful people? Do you not see that you are attacking, and I am defending? Do you not see that I am not attacking? Do you not see you offend peace? Why are you angry if you are the one attacking? Why do you use words like dogma? I love my God, why does that offend you?

    But wait, you did ask one final question: So, as for your assertion that my claim is incorrect, you are again attacking a teaching tool! Stop attacking! It’s 1x1x1 all over again! It is very easy to comprehend that Jesus body died, but yet he lives! This is a gift of understanding!

  4. Zia Shah,

    Everytime you question the veracity of the Bible you are questioning the Koran?
    You are pitting your finite mind against the infinite and question WHAT GOD CAN AND CANNOT DO?

    Regarding your statement about the Christian “logic” of mentioning oranges as apples, please enlighten me about TAUHEED in Islam.

    & regarding Christ’s Death & Resurrection – SHOW ME THE BODY or atleast WHERE IT IS & please note the Church of the Holy Sephulcre in Israel DOES NOT hold Christ’s Body nor the alleged “burial place” in Kashmir.

  5. Ashok, God can do everything that He likes to do. We are not to make God do this or that. God has told us in sacred books, Torah, Bible and Quran, what He likes to do and what He does not do.
    We should not use the power of God to do everything that we like.
    It is written in the Quran “What do you wish to do except Allah wish it so?” So be mindful of God’s wishes….
    Ashok please do not use the power of God to do what you like. Otherwise, I could say that God can produce 100 Jesus from a tree…. That will not be a good idea.

  6. Dear Ashok plural tributes used in letters and proclamations are normal, like a letter from the Queen will say, “We are pleased to grant amnesty to the people of that land.’
    That is a normal way for ages past and present to use plural form of speech even for the King or president who is just one person.
    Similarly, in the Quran also plural form is used. It is more a form of speech for respect. Not to be counted as many persons.
    You should pay attention to Zia Shah sahib’s math offered to you about your 1+1+1=1, or 1+1+1+1+1+1=1
    i.e. six gods instead of only three.
    and 1x1x1=1 and 1x1x1x1x1x1 of five persons (parts)=1 so why not also Trinity. Your God could be just a part of group of five gods or it could be part of infinite number of gods.
    That is not the way. You have to stick to One God as preached by Jesus a.s. and Moses a.s. Please forget Trinity because Jesus or Moses a.s. never preached Trinity in their life time. See Bible OT and NT.

  7. Ghulam Sarwar,
    I ask Zia Shah a question and you pop up to answer. Anyway after all your thesis on the Trinity, I like the way you have side stepped on answering me about TAUHEED which should put to rest the argument about the TRINITY, and please I do not want any WAHID as an answer.

  8. Ghulam Sarwar, you cant have your cake and eat it too. Your reply to PLURAL TRIBUTES is at the most laughable with your reply “plural tributes used in letters and proclamations are normal, like a letter from the Queen will say, “We are pleased to grant amnesty to the people of that land.’”
    When many a time muslims (Ahmedias included) have tried to get out of sticky systems by using the WE word to suit their purpose.

    It is surprising that you say that allah cannot become a human being or rather does not wish to become one. Is that why allah comes of as a god who is FAR OFF FROM HIS CREATION unlike Yahweh whose WORD BECAME FLESH – John 3:16.

  9. Ashok, you are denying the common practice of using the plural form of pronouns in Royal Proclamations. It is common in the letters in these days too.
    Your problem about word tauheed in Quran. It is not there but hundreds of times it is stated in the Quran that God is One. God is One. That brings and establishes Tauheed in Quran.
    But in your bible, neither is there any Trinity nor any explicit mention that there are gods beside the God Almighty or there are other gods too. In fact there is clear mention of just One God at few places in the Bible NT and many places in the Bible OT. You are bound to take notice of the teachings of bible OT because it is an integral part of your bible in circulation. And the Bible OT does not allow the thought of any other God beside the One God. So where is your Trinity?
    You have no legs to stand upon!

  10. Jesus’ life was prophesied in the old testament and his coming was to fulfil the prophesy……Jesus being God in human form sujected himself to normal human living so to fulfill the will of the Godhead, ie, the father son and holy spirit….Jesus died, went to hades but death had no power over him and he arose from the dead…..a core belief of the muslim religion and I love my muslim friends but there are boundaries is that god said that the first child to be born of abraham and sarah is to be the child of promise……how in heaven can you then say ismael is the child of promise when ishmael was born of the servant? Don’t try to portray to portray a faultless faith…mohammed himself was suspect in his teachings and beliefs…..on the topic thanks for murdering my Christian brethren in iraq…..because of your perfect faith and please don’t come with your argument that you all don’t teach war! Jihad….. live in peace….learn and debate….at least our religions teach about love

  11. GHULAM john1:1- in the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God……vs 14 and the word was made flesh and dwelt among us and we beheld his glory the glory as of the only begotten of the father full of grace and truth. Jesus dwelt on earth…we beheld his glory in that he healed the sick through miracle work…..the diciples ONLY were given the power to do miracles…by inspiration of the holy spirit…God, Jesus and holy spirit are three in one….three personalities. …one Godhead.Hope this clarifies any misunderstandings…thanks for your time guys….have a blessed night

  12. Haha you talking about discrimination? Seriously okay….firstly it’s not discriminating…..ismael received an inheritance from Abraham….he howrver was not the child of promise as I clearly stated before.

  13. Ghulam Sarwar, WHAT DID CHRIST MEAN by saying “Go Baptise in the name of the Father, Son & Spirit”? Was this “ADDED LATER” to “promulgate the Doctrine of the Trinity”? OR was Christ talking about the Triune UNITY of the ONE GOD?

    & at Christ’s Baptism, the Father, Son & the Spirit are manifest. MAYBE this to was ADDED LATER to “promulgate the Doctrine of the Trinity”

    Those were just 2 points from the NT.

    Read Genesis in the OT the 1st Chapter itself talks about the Trinity – or MAYBE this to was ADDED LATER to “promulgate the Doctrine of the Trinity”

    & Ghulam Sarwar you have overlooked to reply to my comment
    “It is surprising that you say that allah cannot become a human being or rather does not wish to become one. Is that why allah comes of as a god who is FAR OFF FROM HIS CREATION unlike Yahweh whose WORD BECAME FLESH – John 3:16.”

  14. Ghulam Sarwar,

    It should be clear by now that it is not in every situation that 1+1=2. 1 spirit + 1 body=1 human being, according to muhammadans. What is true of 1+1 is equally true of 1+1+1.
    In Boolean Algebra, 1+1+1=1. That is science.
    Writing on the annunciation, Muhammad quotes his god as saying “WE SENT OUR SPIRIT” to appear to Mary as a man. It cannot be denied that the pronoun ‘WE’ denotes more than one individual.
    When muhammadans argue against the Holy Trinity, they ignore the fact that the quran uses the pronouns ‘WE’, ‘US’, ‘OURS’, ‘OURSELVES’ more than i400 times to describe their allah. These are unmistakable references to the fact that allah is more than one entity.
    If it is assumed that allah is the same as YAHWEH, then the quran trounces the bible in its references to the Holy Trinity.
    To save face, it is argued that such pronouns relate to allah’s plurality of majesty. To subscribe to that means allah sits in council with its creation. But would God do that? However, I have listened to addresses by monarchs and none of them has ever said “OUR GOVERNMENT” instead of “MY GOVERNMENT” or “WE SHALL DO THIS” instead of “I SHALL DO THIS”. The plurality of majesty argument does not avail its proponents.
    The Holy Trinity exists and Muhammad could not comprehend the doctrine. That was the root of his confusion.

    • My Government or Our Government – terribly important. The Qur’an is from Allah, not from Mohammad (peace be on him). Consequently it would be Allah the Creator who did not comprehend the doctrine of trinity? My view: The Christians can put forward their views, the Muslims can put forward their views. Arguing about it is useless: For you your religion and for me my religion. I think Allah for guiding me towards Islam as, yes, I could not comprehend the doctrine and in spite of all the efforts of the Christian commentators on The Muslim Times I still cannot.

  15. Every time a muhammadan opens his/her mouth to deny the event of the crucifixion, he/she exudes nothing but utter confusion. The quran explicitly says that Jesus was not crucified. Instead, an unnamed substitute was nailed to the cross.
    But here our Ahmadi friends have revised the position by claiming that Jesus was actually crucified but he did not die on the cross. In addition to the substitution theory, there is also the swoon theory. All propagated by the Ahmadis.
    All these theories fail to take into consideration the no nonsense temper of the over bearing Romans against the recalcitrant Jews.
    In the first place, it was the Roman, not the Jews who crucified Jesus. Muhammadan sources confirm this. The ‘Commentary of the holy quran’ volume 1, first edition at page 386 says “CRUCIFIXION IS THE ACT OF PUTTING TO DEATH BY NAILING ON THE CROSS. IT WAS IN USE, THOUGH GENERALLY RESTRICTED TO SLAVES AND REBELS, AMONGST ROMANS, UNDER WHOSE GOVERNMENT JESUS AND HIS PROSECUTORS, THE JEWS LIVED”.
    What should be noted is that a prosecutor is not the same as an executioner. The Romans put Jesus to death by crucifixion with the approval of the Jews.
    If the Romans did not want to kill Jesus, what would have been the point of their crucifying Him? Did they seek to humiliate or glorify someone who was regarded by the Jews as not being the friend of Caesar and a blasphemer? The Romans were not known for such frivolities of staging a show to amuse the irate Jews who themselves were not in the mood for that.
    History is not replete with instances of people surviving crucifixion. The historian, Josephus, could only think of only one instance. Then he had interceded with Titus for his three friends. The Roman commander ordered that the victims should be brought down and given the best treatment immediately. In spite of that timely intervention, only one of then survived.
    Jesus was not so lucky. He was left hanging there for hours after having been severely scorched and being made to carry his cross for a considerable distance.
    Both the Jews and Romans wanted Him dead and none would have given Him the luxury of being set free to receive medical attention.
    That the Roman soldiers did not break His legs was evidence that He was already dead as that process was to speed up death so that the bodies would be removed before the beginning of the Sabbath.
    The women went to the tomb to embalm a dead body as per the Jewish custom. Embalment is done topically. The talk of Jesus being given a massive dose of anti-biotics topically really begs the question. To prevent death, is the medication administered orally or topically?
    Those who peddle this fail to explain and give other examples of people who were subjected to Jesus’s treatment fully recovering within a short span of three days. Neither can they explain why the so-called Jesus ointment remained hidden from AD 1 to when a fraudster presented it in Pakistan about 100 years ago. The question then is, why was the same ointment, with its curative properties, not given to Muhammad when he suffered from the effect of the Khayabbar poisoning for three years and died as a result of it? Sa’d, who passed judgment on the Jews, died from the wounds he suffered in battle. Why was the same ointment not used to save his live?
    Jesus has two natures: man and God. As God He lives for ever and will return to judge the world. As man He dwelt among humans and felt the emotions and all the tribulations which befall man. In the end He conquered death.

  16. Namelee empty rhetoric as usual. Let me tackle your last sentence, “In the end He conquered death,” first.

    The Omnipotent God was bringing life from non-life on the planet earth, for billions of years before Jesus was born, so this conquering of death is merely empty rhetoric with some emotional appeal to the already converted.

    Even before alleged resurrection, according to the Bible, Jesus had raised Lazarus from the dead.

    Every day in modern hospitals patients are resuscitated from the death and the following documentary shows people surviving on cross for short time, voluntarily in Philippines, start watching around minute seven:

  17. @Ashok:
    WHAT DID CHRIST MEAN by saying “Go Baptise in the name of the Father, Son & Spirit”? ——————
    First Ashok. The words of Jesus were not bad or wrong. You are reading it wrong. You are to preach in the name of God, Jesus and Holy Spirit. That means only one God. Neither the son, nor the Spirit is God. Jesus did not say to take Jesus and Spirit as gods! Did Jesus say that take Jesus and Spirit as gods? Never.
    @ namelee: It should be clear by now that it is not in every situation that 1+1=2. 1 spirit + 1 body=1 human being,
    REply: It means Jesus had one body and two spirits, one human spirit and one holy spirit. but still he is 1+1+1=1. Why?

    @namelee: In Boolean Algebra, 1+1+1=1. That is science.
    Reply: Yes, that is science. According to Boolean algebra, God or Jesus or Holy spirit or paul or peter=1+1+1+1+1=1. Will you agree?
    @namelee: Writing on the annunciation, Muhammad quotes his god as saying “WE SENT OUR SPIRIT” to appear to Mary as a man. It cannot be denied that the pronoun ‘WE’ denotes more than one individual.
    Reply: This matter has been described in above posts, as a matter of respectful speech to use WE and US. If namelee does not want to understand, there is no need to explain further. namelee is bent on misleading and misusing the words.

  18. Zia,
    “NAMELEE EMPTY RHETORIC AS USUAL”. That you chose to reply contradicts your assertion.
    In the case of Lazarus being brought back to live, the Bible says Jesus cried “LAZARUS, COME FORTH”. This means that Jesus commanded death to set Lazarus free. On the other hand, Jesus resurrected on His own accord. No body made any contribution to that.

  19. Namelee, I thought you are a smart man but you turned out to be silly.

    You say, “Jesus resurrected on His own accord.”

    A dead being raising himself from the dead.

    I have a bridge to sell to you also. Sell your clothing and all you have and deposit the returns in my Swiss account and you will have your bridge in the city of the dead!

  20. Zia,
    When one is bereft of ideas he resorts to ad hominem . No amount of derogatory name will deter me or alter anything.
    That Christ raised Himself from the dead is evidence that He is God. There are more. the Bible says that only God can walk on water. Jesus did that and no other man has ever been recorded as having done so.

  21. A dead god raised a dead god, wonderful.

    No wonder, half of Europe is now agnostic or atheist.

    You say only god can walk on water, I have seen much more walking on water and fish swimming in water.

    I would rather bow to Archimedes, whose insight has lead to building of cruise ships and much more, rather than to contradictory stories from the four Gospels, elevated to canon status in the fourth century.

  22. It is really interesting to note the idea of namelee that ” Christ raised Himself from the dead is evidence that He is God.”
    Every one will have double laugh. First why a God should have to die? Nobody in the world will believe that a god can die.
    Then that dead god (who is perhaps not really dead in the mind of namelee), that dead god resurrected himself and got up. He made himself alive. The dead god gave life to himself. Is there any sanity in the church beliefs??
    Then what were the other two gods of church doing?? i.e. the father and the ghost??
    namelee is using all far fetched ideas to prove that Jesus was god.
    Is it not written in the Bible that Jesus said about Lazarus, “He is not dead, he sleepeth”. It means that Lazarus was all alive just sitting in the cave waiting for Jesus to call him to come out.

  23. That Jesus died on the cross is fact and indesputable.
    Even secular academics will confirm this.

    His execution is recorded on the early 1st century Roman writings by Romans that no motive in him.

    His execution is recorded on the early 1st century Jewish writings by Jews that did not accept him and had no motive in Jesus.

    the Christian faith is based on the RESURRECTION of Christ in physical body form (not as a ghost or other apparition-thus signaling the defeat of death.

    His remains have never been found and never will.

  24. There is no doubt that all Jews and Christians believe that Jesus died on the cross. It was the mission of the Jews so their belief is understandable.
    We cannot understand what is the mission of the Church except that they are killing Jesus on the cross against his own wishes just to invent a theory of original sin and Jesus sacrifice. It is all wrong.
    But the knowledge that all Jews and Christians believe that Jesus was killed on the Cross is true. That is reported in the Quran as follows:
    All Jews and Christians believe and will keep on believing that Jesus was killed on the cross. But the truth is that he was not killed on the cross i.e. Jesus did not die a cursed death on the cross and he was not a cursed person.
    He was a high level messenger of God (Allah) and Allah raised Jesus up in ranks close to Himself.
    That means Jesus died a normal peaceful death on this earth and his soul was raised in high ranks to heavens (not his body).
    For reference please see verses 157 to verse 160 of chapter 4 of the Quran. It is truth of the words of the Quran and a proof of it. The Quran also tells us that Jesus will only be a witness to these riddles on the day of judgment only, never before. It means he will not appear on earth before day of judgment.
    The reason that Jesus did not want to die as per wishes of the Jews is as follows:
    1. He prayed earnestly to God (The Father) to avoid the cup. That was his wish and he requested God for that.
    2. Jesus abused Judas Iscariot for selling him to Romans. He said about Judas “It was better for him that he was not born”.
    If Jesus was willing to be killed he would have praise Judas that Judas helped Jesus in the matter of sacrifice.

  25. Im a biblical scholar and by reading your first reason i can tell you are picking out random verses to recite without context. The reason you wrote this article is because you feel that your way of life is threatened if it is true. … Do some real reading first and use context this time.

  26. Jesus did not die and in Qur’an 19:30-31 “He spake: Lo! I am the slave of Allah. He hath given me the Scripture and hath appointed me a Prophet, “And He hath made me blessed wheresoever I be, and hath enjoined on me Prayer and Charity as long as I live;” ” So Jesus is giving Zakat in heaven to somebody for the last two thousand years?

  27. Nabeel,
    How does quran 19:30-31 prove that Jesus did not die? Your position contradicts the verse where the quran states “PEACE BE UPON ME THE DAY I WAS BORN, AND THE DAY I DIE”.
    His work on earth ended the day He ascended to heaven after the resurrection.

  28. @Nameelee. are you a Christian?

    n Quran 4:157 the Jesus crucifixion was only made to appear like that to his enemies. They did not kill him for sure.
    Next, How come you forgot that this lengthy article is about “Jesus did not die”?

    I know your next reply: “Jesus died some other type of death.” Tell the same to the scholars of history and everyone else that does not believe you. Scholars have rejected the stories that Jesus spent rest of his life in Kashmir and Tibet and globetrotting. In a Kashmir news article, Kashmiris were angry at people fabricating these stories.

    Why couldnt anybody notice him die if you think he died? He died a forgotten and lonely messenger? No way, Jesus has been blessed by Allah in Suraa 19.

  29. From Bible NT, Jesus teachings:
    if a son ask his father for bread, will the father give him a stone? If the son ask the father for fish will the father give him a serpent? Never.
    But see. Jesus prayed to father to avoid the cup i.e. death on the cross. Why Father will not help him against his enemies? Why father God will not save him?
    Also, while Jesus was alive, he could not help himself and according to church, he could not save his own life while on the cross. Then how as a dead man, Jesus could bring himself to life? Resurrection is not true. Resuscitation seems to be the right answer.

  30. I will pray to our heavenly Father, that the light will be shined again in your heart. For the Muslim faith has applied their own will upon the Gospel and have refused Him. And one day, when Jesus comes to redeem His flock, all will see. Then Jesus will say to those who denied Him, that He did not know them when He speaks to His Father. I pray you change your heart before that day.

    God’s blessings for a changed heart, which bears the truth. Amen!

  31. Dear, the citation on point is not john by Matthew :

    6. Jesus’ prayers and supplications to be saved from crucifixion:

    Sit ye here, while I go and pray yonder. (John 26: 36)=Matthew 26:36
    And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me. (John 26: 39)
    …. He went away again, and prayed the second time and prayed, saying ……and prayed the third time, saying the same words. (John 26:42-44)+matthew

    Read more: http://www.themuslimtimes.org/2012/04/religion/christianity/65-reasons-to-believe-jesus-did-not-die-on-the-cross#ixzz3F2lxp5KL

  32. the citation is not on book of john but , it is matthew

    6. Jesus’ prayers and supplications to be saved from crucifixion:

    Sit ye here, while I go and pray yonder. (John 26: 36)
    And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me. (John 26: 39)
    …. He went away again, and prayed the second time and prayed, saying ……and prayed the third time, saying the same words. (John 26:42-44)

    Read more: http://www.themuslimtimes.org/2012/04/religion/christianity/65-reasons-to-believe-jesus-did-not-die-on-the-cross#ixzz3F2lxp5KL

  33. Scripture shows over and over how Jesus came to die and be resurrected for the sins of all humanity.
    This is just one passage that refutes your 65 reasons.

    Matthew 16:21-23
    21 From that time Jesus began to show his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and on the third day be raised. 22 And Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him, saying, “Far be it from you, Lord! This shall never happen to you.” 23 But he turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a hindrance to me. For you are not setting your mind on the things of God, but on the things of man.”

    Jesus called one of His closest disciples ‘Satan’ for trying to stand in the way of His mission; which was to come and die a physical death on the cross for all of humanity to pay the price for our sins. Then to rise again after 3 days according to scriptures.
    So instead of trying to prove the unprovable, look into the scriptures with an open mind and receive God’s gift of grace that He is offering to you through the death and resurrection of His one and only Son.
    Believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved. He loves you. He loves your soul and wants you to be with Him for all eternity and we can only be saved by His grace.
    Repent and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.
    Blessings to you!

    • Jesus died for the sins of all humanity: meaning. First God gave original sin to mankind and then he sacrificed his only son to take away the sin which he gave us in the first place. When I pointed out this illogical topic to a priest his answer was: “Yes, when I was studying in the seminary I had many sleepless nights about this question”. – Islam is such a simple and logical religion: It teaches that each baby is born free of sin. And … if we sin during our lifetime, we can ask Allah, the God that created us all and is Master of the Universe, to simply forgive us. No need to kill someone else on our behalf…

  34. @daremann

    October 23, 2014 at 4:56 am
    Scripture shows over and over how Jesus came to die and be resurrected for the sins of all humanity.
    This is just one passage that refutes your 65 reasons.
    Matthew 16:21-23
    21 From that time Jesus began to show his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and on the third day be raised.
    daremann, you are right. Jesus said what you have presented about his being killed by the elders of the Jews. That is what he knew and that is what he knew was coming to him.
    It is not right to ascribe suicidal aims to a man of God. You have many problems. It is not one problem. You believe that Jesus was son of God and that he was the God himself. Such things are never to be found in old testament which is attached with your gospel. Also not in the gospel.
    Jesus was man of God and he knew what was in store for him. He knew and he was willing to sacrifice his life in the way of truth. What he was preaching was the message of love and that was the truth. He was guiding the Jews to follow the scripture in a better way. That is all. He was their teacher, a prophet.
    He knew that he will have enemies and they will try to kill him. That is why he said the words shown in Mathew 16:21. That appeared to be ordained for Jesus and that is what happened and he prayed in the garden before his arrest to avoid the cup i.e. death on the cross which was being prepared for him by his enemies.
    Will not God Almighty listen to his prayer and save him? If a son asks his father for bread, will the father give him a stone? If a son ask his father for fish, will the father give him a snake? N E V E R.
    It is reported in the gospel that an angel visited Jesus in the garden and assured (comforted) him that his prayer was accepted and that he will not die on the cross.
    This matter is reported in the Quran too. God said to Jesus that he will die a natural death (not on the cross) and he (his soul) will be raised in high ranks close to God after his death….++++++
    Jesus a.s. was assured that he will not die a cursed death on the cross. His enemies will not succeed in killing him.
    That is why when everything seemed to be going wrong, Jesus yelled out to God Almighty, reminding God about His promise. Jesus said, “Eli, Eli, Why have you forgotten me?” =”O my Lord, O my Lord, why have you forgotten me?”
    It was a miracle for the sake of Jesus a.s. that he was brought down from the cross before he breathed his last and his legs were not broken and by application of medicines to his wounds, he recovered and was able to walk 70 miles (in disguise) to Galilee and meet his friends there.
    Then together with his disciples, they planned properly for Jesus to migrate to a place of safety because he was a condemned man and could never appear in public.
    The best course was to travel towards east, away from the jurisdiction of the Roman empire. That is what he did, with his mother in company.
    Please consider all these things.

  35. God did not ‘give’ sin to mankind.
    “All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.” That means you, me and everyone else who has ever lived is a sinner…only Christ has lived a perfect life thereby enabling Him to be our substitute. We sin b/c we are sinners. That is our nature.
    Sin demands judgment b/c God is a holy and just God but He is also loving and merciful. We are all born sinners in need of grace that only God can give. One only needs to see how selfish and demanding little children are to know that no one is born without sin. We did not teach our children to be selfish but every one of them, by nature is selfish.
    “The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Jesus Christ our Lord.”
    Death is the consequence of sin. Death and hell are rightly deserved b/c only God is holy and sin must be atoned for.

  36. I met a friend recently. He said, ” Jesus said he was doing the work of the One who sent him”. It means Jesus was sent by the God Almighty, i.e. the Father, The God.
    My friend told me, or rather asked me, “Can a God send another God?” Why would a God send another God.?
    Also we know the Christian daily prayers that we recited (daily) at work place “O Father forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us, and give us our daily bread,,,,,,”
    What is the meaning of “Forgive us our trespasses”? What is the meaning of “Forgiveness” when this word is not known by God? According to church teaching, God cannot forgive and does not forgive.
    The next point is “Repentance”. It was emphasized by John the Baptist (a.s.) and also by Jesus a.s. Repentance was needed (and suggested) for atonement and forgiveness. But church has no meaning for this word because Church needs the blood of Jesus for atonement. Church says “Believe in the death (sacrifice) of Jesus on the Cross. then you will be saved (forgiven).”
    It is also said that “Wages of sin is death”. In other words, death is the result of sin. But we see that Adam sinned (disobeyed a command) and he died. But Adam (a.s.) was not the first man on earth who died. There were many other men and women on earth before Adam and they were also dying. How come they were affected by the sin of Adam a.s.? All these questions need to be addressed by the understanding persons and capable Christians should kindly give some good, satisfactory answers.

  37. “… capable Christians should kindly give some good, satisfactory answers.”

    Christians don’t have to answer to you or anyone else, just as you don’t have to answer to anyone regarding your beliefs. Faith is a personal matter. Most religions, including Islam, have fantastical elements, and no one has to justify why they believe in what they believe to anyone else, whether it’s a man with a long white beard, or a flying spaghetti monster.

    My advice to my brother Christians and Muslim.
    If you are a Muslim, please do not judge Christian’s belief.
    If you are a Christian, please do mot judge Muslim’s belief.

    God has warned His people, Christians and Muslims as following;


    O you who believe, no man should ever scoff at other men. May be, the latter are better than the former. Nor should women (ever scoff) at other women. May be, the latter women are better than the former ones. And do not find fault with one another, nor call one another with bad nicknames. Bad is the name of sinfulness after embracing Faith. 4 If anyone does not repent, then such people are the wrongdoers.QS 4; (11)

    “And insult not those whom they worship besides God, lest they insult God wrongfully without knowledge. Thus We have made fair-seeming to each people its own doings; then to their Lord is their return and He shall then inform them of all that they used to do QS 6;108

    These are the messages we must give the next generation.(our children and grandchildren)

    1. Do not accuse anyone falsely (exodus.20;16).

    2. All of us will stand before God to be judged by Him.(Roman 14:11)

    3. James 4:12 God alone, who gave the law, is the Judge. He alone has the power to save or to destroy. So what right do you have to judge your neighbor.

    Surely, your Lord is best aware of those who go astray from His way, and He is best aware of those who are on the right path.QS 6;117.

    He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book: in it are verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning); they are the foundation of the Book: others are not of well-established meaning. But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof that is not of well-established meaning. Seeking discord, and searching for its interpretation, but no one knows its true meanings except Allah, and those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: “We believe in it; the whole of it is from our Lord”; and none will grasp the Message except men of understanding. QS. 3:7.

    GOD the All-knowing, All-Mighty keeping His books of forgery. Sure, Allah love His people to put trust on Him. QS 3;159

    Was Salam–With Love

  39. shuuu but it says do not keep your understanding to yourself look at me now I am between Islamic and Christianity wat do I do I am running mad wch is the ryt one I don’t want to come and be on the wrong side Catholics compiled the new testament is this true because thn I can’t believe Catholic led by pope nd was Mohammed a descendent of moses and Abraham aswel as Jesus if thy were one then I thnk Mohammed nyt be ryt because they are like one family???

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